I hope i have got this post in the right place as i am new to posting on this site..

I had JDM 1999 EK4 hatch with a B16 and a Gt28 turbo and it got written off sadly so now i want a turbo h22.

I have a JDM 1997 Honda Civic SIR 4door and it has a blown motor. I want to swap a h22 into it and then turbo to make a stupid fast civic and im looking for ideas as to what turbo and setup to use..

I've been reading posts on here for a while but there has been alot of controversy over turbo-ing h22's and what swaps are good for civic's.I want a h22 period i just want to know opinions on turboing it and the issues i may have with clearances etc.

 

go find a t-88 and report your findings

 

If the H22 is stock get something in the range of a 50-57 trim and have fun...

 

I would first look into the H2B conversion. And also, you just shouldn't push much more the 400WHP on stock sleeves

 

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I didnt think it was possible to build an H22 w/o sleeving it...i dont remember why, but for some reason that comes to mind. Either way, he doesn't mention anything about building it so i'm going to assume its stock. I would stay on the safe side and say that ~300whp is the max for your H22

 

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I didnt think it was possible to build an H22 w/o sleeving it...i dont remember why, but for some reason that comes to mind. Either way, he doesn't mention anything about building it so i'm going to assume its stock. I would stay on the safe side and say that ~300whp is the max for your H22</TD></TR></TABLE>


H22's have FRM sleeves, I think that's what you were thinking of. There's a big thread on Mahle pistons for FRM cylinders. I think it's still uncharted territory with the potential of stock sleeves on an H22. Mahle is right now a cheaper alternative than sleeving. However, if you're keeping the motor stock, I'd suggest a T3/T04E, 57 trim, .63 a/r. That's what I'm using on my H22 and it works great.

 

yea the h22 is stock.. my biggest problem is i live in the Cayman Islands and its hard to get machining done to anything here where i am without shipping it to Miami..


Specail Ed: what kind of numbers are u getting with that setup?


Modified by JDM RuLeS at 2:56 PM 1/20/2008

 

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Specail Ed: what kind of numbers are u getting with that setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I haven't had it dyno'd yet. I'm only running 7 psi right now, but I'm going to be getting a boost controller and probably take it up to around 10 psi. I'm guessing at 10 psi, once it gets tuned, will be around 300 whp. At least that's what my goal is. Keep in mind that you have to figure on a few other area's other than just turbo size. Tuning and fuel delivery are essential. I'm using a Walboro 255 in tank pump and RC 550cc injectors. Overall my whole set-up is a little modest, but considering I was keeping the motor all stock and my budget, it seems to be the best bang for the buck so far.

 

yea i was thinking about that as my goal..

my old B16 Civic used to have about 260.Ive still got all the setup and motor from that car I'll probably use some of the stuff again..

I used a chipped ECU in my old car what are you using for the turbo h22?
also, how hard is it to fit in the front of a Civic with that motor?


Modified by JDM Lyfestyle at 10:45 PM 4/10/2008

 

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I didnt think it was possible to build an H22 w/o sleeving it...i dont remember why, but for some reason that comes to mind. Either way, he doesn't mention anything about building it so i'm going to assume its stock. I would stay on the safe side and say that ~300whp is the max for your H22</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, H22 with Mahle gold series pistons and 60-1 turbo can definitly make over 400whp... remember solid deck . The pistons are "only made for FRM Sleeves". But I guess topic starter is doing stock block... T3/T04E 57trim will be the best around 8-10psi. Before I built my block, i was @ 11psi for over a year, I guess I could say I got lucky. Rings were mint and sleeve looked like it just came out of factory lol.
Best of luck. You will have fun boosted H22 heh

 

I can change internals myself so that isnt a problem I just dont want to go as far as sleeving the block really..

No 1 else has thought of putting a h22 turbo in a Civic out here so It's definately going to be different.. Im going to the States probably in January so planning on pickingup everything then..
Anyone know who would sell Mahle pistons around Miami or Chicago ?

 

Only the OBD 1 H22s are solid deck

Regardless... F the Mahle pistons... We made 436WHP on a stock H22a4 (open deck) ON stock pistons... Only mod were the headstuds. That was On a GT30R

Lasted a bit over a year CONSTANTLY raped. Before going and buying the Mahle pistons (Which are a hack IMO- I looked into them as well) buck up and save the money and get a sleeved block. You can usually find a used abandoned project block for 5-600. Cheap insurance when you want to see how tight you can twist the boost controller.

The sc61 is good for over 600whp... For the level of power you are going for, I agree that a 57 trim would be alot more fun/less laggy... But boy oh boy does my H LOVE the T4 Pt61... Over 600 at only 23 PSI...

In short

600+ Gt3582R/SC6176S/T-4 PT6176SP
500 GT3076r
300-400 57 trim, with 82 ex. housing (or a Holset :-) )


Good luck, yes H22s are a crap ton of fun boosted

 

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also, how hard is it to fit in the front of a Civic with that motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I really wouldn't worry with the Mahle pistons if you're only going to keep the boost relatively low. Fitment would only be an issue with what manifold you're running. My Full Race ram horn was a bit of a tight fit. The wastegate is really close to the radiator support, but it all squeezed in there. About the tuning, contact John at J-K Tuning. He has a few maps from various H22 set ups, including mine, that he uses his Uberdata to reprogram the ECU.

 

I have been looking into what size turbo to use on my H22 build for a while now. I went way over board with my motor thinking I was gonna go for the most power I can get but after realizing how much money I put into this build and all the time invested, it would be a shame to go out and blow it up. I was looking at the 56 trim GT3071R, it's good for about 450-500hp, a friend of mine has it on his 240SX and loves it. If I can tune it with about 400whp at about 15-18 psi, i'll be a happy camper. Good luck with the swap.

 

So what Im looking at is a T3/T04E 57trim turbo, I've still got all my old intercooler piping and the cooler so i can make that all fit somehow,a Full-Race manifold and a reprogrammed ECU..
Im not planning on going above 10Psi..

Any comments anyone??


Specail Ed:Where did you get your manifold, Ive been looking for one..

 

Full Race is no longer making that manifold. You'll have to find one used somewhere if you want to go with them. Check out some other brands or ask some other guys what they're running.

 

ok thanks Specail Ed..

Any ideas anyone about what manifold to run?

Im hopefully looking for something that wont hinder the rad or a/c if possible but far as i know it isnt possible to turbo an h22 in a civic while keeping the a/c..am i right??