anybody else have this problem. whenever i turn hard they rub really bad. they are 205/50/15 on a 6.5" wheel. i was wondering if when i get swaybars will it help with preventing this. since the car won't lean as hard. i just feel like i am hurting the car so bad when i hear that rubbing sound. its worse than nails on a chalk board

 

What is the offset of your wheels? I have 205/50x15" Azenis on Kosei K1s (15x7" 45mm offset) and the wheel rubs on the rear upper control arm, which I fixed with spacers for the rear. But no other rubbing

 

well you don't have as bad rubbing since you are in a 6th gen. your fenders are bigger. anybody with an EH having the same problem. i am rubbing on the outside, not the inside.

thanks for your input civicSiRacer


[Modified by rookie2nr, 10:20 AM 6/27/2002]

 

Hate to tell you this but the fenders are all the same. I switched wheels from my 1993 Civic Ex to my 2000 Civic Si and those same wheels rubbed the same place on the outer fenderwells..

So what is your offset that would really help you know.


[Modified by CivicSiRacer, 11:47 AM 6/27/2002]

 

I dont have any problems rubbing fenders, but on hard left hand turns, they'll rub the frame rail. I can't feel it rubbing, nor hear it.

 

It's your offset...either that, or you are "slammed"

 

i have azenis on 15x7 in volk te37's and they rub ever so slightly so there is hope and i have no sway bars but my car is nowhere near slammed
hope this helps
lata
chris

 

no i'm not slammed at all. its just a 1.8" eibach sportline drop. it only does it on hard turns, like when i'm doing little backroad runs and autocross

 

What wheels are you running? What offset?

I used to run a VW offset, +46 I believe, 15x7. It gave me plenty of clearance in the inside, but ended up having to roll the rears to stop the rubbing. A real low offset would give you the problem you're having, rubbing on the inside.

Those Sportlines might be the problem too. Don't let the name fool you, they're appearance springs above all else. I definitely would not have autocrossed on them.

 

rota subzeros with i think a 40 offset


i was thinking of changing to H&R race or sport, would they be alot better than the eibach? i hear they are


[Modified by rookie2nr, 11:47 AM 6/27/2002]


[Modified by rookie2nr, 11:48 AM 6/27/2002]

 

It might help, but if your wheel offset is bad, then it's bad and there's not much fixing it except to roll the fender lips.

I'm running Azenis on 15x6.5 +40 wheels on my 93CX. I've got 500f/550r springs, a front GSR swaybar and a 22mm rear swaybar and I'm not rubbing at all... anywhere. I'm also not lowered that much though. I have almost 2 fingers gap to the fenders (large fingers).

 

thanks, that was exactly what i need to know. looks like i'll buying swaybars.

 

Well the problem I see is your wheel size and offset. With that 6.5" width you need a 42mm offset.

Sway bars are not going to solve everything though - JeffS's setup cannot be comfortable for daily driving I know cause I have 350f/400r and in PA it's rough. You really need to listen to us. He's running SUPER STIFF springs. Prolly stiff enough that the sway bars don't come into play.

You could insert spring spacers between the springs to help stop compression of the springs. I was rubbing with 215/45x16" Azenis tires and did the spacer install and that solved it for the moment.

The other thing you could do is buy new wheels which would be the expensive way.


[Modified by CivicSiRacer, 1:18 PM 6/27/2002]

 

You're correct. While I do plan to (and do) drive to track events several hundred miles away, I wouldn't recommend this setup for a daily driver.

I'm just giving an example of a setup that doesn't rub.

 

won't be buying new wheels, i'll just make the suspension better, thats what i was doing anyway.

 

It's the offset of the wheel. Have you already tried rolling the lip of the fender/quartar panel in a bit? If it rubs on the outer fender area... Roll the fender lip back to it doesn't interfere.

Not every shop has a good fender roller either, you have to be carful not to take the paint off.


[Modified by 3RROR404, 6:30 PM 6/27/2002]

 

i really don't want to roll the fenders since i just got the car out of the paint shop a week ago and don't want to mess up the paint.

 

I had this problem with my 205 55 15 on the rear. It would only rub on the driver's side fender lip and the metal bumper reinforcement when i turn right. The car is like 1/2 inch lower on the drivers side than on the passenger side in the rear. I had this problem before and after I installed springs hoping that I would fix the problem. I got new tires that were a little smaller, 195 50 15 and it doesn't rub anymore. BUT, the ride height is still uneven so I just kind of side stepped the problem. Any ideas as to why the ride height it off? I'm guessing something is up with my lower control arms but I don't kno.

 

My fender roller uses a rubber wheel, so with the right amount of force at an even rate, you can roll the lip back without destroying the paint. If it didnt have a rubber wheel, i just might as well use a body hammer.

 

hey, lee's car did the same thing when I was riding in it and we went around a curve. Problem is 205/50-15 is larger in diameter than stock 92-95 civic tires (175/70-13 or 185/60-14), so your tires are closer to the fenders. A closer size would be 195/50-15, but I know Azenis don't come in that size, so I dunno what to tell you. 96-00 Civics had 185/65-14 or 195/55-15, so 205/50-15 works better on those cars. Some people don't think differences between 60 and 65 series tires, or 195 and 205 width tires makes that much of a difference, but it does.

 

yeah lee told me his rubbed pretty bad. i guess their just going to rub.

 

all you had to do was file or shave off about 2mm max of metal off the upper arm, then paint over it and your set.

 

Still a crazy bone jarring setup

 

Yeah I did that back in January 2001.

 

Uhh, nope.

The fender wells on the 1996-up Civics are indeed larger tha the 1992-1995 stuff.

Just like the 1992-1995 stuff has bigger wells than the 1988-1991 stuff.

Ever notice how 16'' wheels look not so *** on the 1996-up Civis, yet on the 1992-1995 they look almost too big in most cases?