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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Default Massive torque steer? lets hear some input

well here is some details, ill try and keep it short.

Ls/Vtec Turbod. 250 HP. Type R LSD, Front strut bar rear strut bar, H& R Springs and stock struts and a H brace.

I am trying to figure out why my car steers to the right really bad.
Ill hold the steering wheel going perfectly straight, but ill give it 30% gas and it will instantly go like i turned the steering wheel 60 degrees.

I am constantly fighting the steer under acceleration.

It has been laser aligned, checked to see if anything is loose.

You can see how this is a problem when i give it 70 to 100% throttle

Do i need more suspension? I know my tires are getting low, about 50% tred, but some how i cant believe the tires would make it go all fish tailing and scary to get up to 80 to 100 mph.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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did you check your front lower control arm bushings? mine were toast and the car felt like it had torque steer
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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ill check the control arms, i was thinking of upgrading them, and also adding in a tie bar front and back, yea its a Type r tranny
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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Don't Hondas put more torque to the right wheel, because the transaxle is on the passenger side, thus using a shorter axle? I have even tested this, and my right tire spins easier when it is on ice/snow on the side of the road compared to when the left tire is on ice/snow. Sometimes when I am driving through my parking lot in first gear in my torque monster stock Civic if I give it just a little gas with my hand off the steering wheel, the wheel jerks to the right a little, and always to the right not the left.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Massive torque steer? lets hear some input (Dasanib20T)

Do your wheels have the correct offset?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Uncle Ben is right, on a transversally mounted engine one of the axle shafts is always shorter and it will torque steer in that direction.

You'll get used to it.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuickGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uncle Ben is right, on a transversally mounted engine one of the axle shafts is always shorter and it will torque steer in that direction.

You'll get used to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, what this guy is experiencing is not normal... he gives it 30% gas and the car turns
as though he just turned the wheel 60 degrees, thats not normal, thats bad, no one should be able to get used to that.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g3Gsr443 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, what this guy is experiencing is not normal... he gives it 30% gas and the car turns
as though he just turned the wheel 60 degrees, thats not normal, thats bad, no one should be able to get used to that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

IDK, my stock DSM would act like there's a tornado next to my car as soon as it hit boost, not necessarily at full throttle. Maybe 200+ wtq has a more dramatic effect than 115 wtq?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Uncle Ben’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

IDK, my stock DSM would act like there's a tornado next to my car as soon as it hit boost, not necessarily at full throttle. Maybe 200+ wtq has a more dramatic effect than 115 wtq?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please do not ever report wtq again unless you report it correctly. 115 ft-lb of wtq in first gear on an Integra would equate to about 10 ft-lb of engine torque.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuickGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uncle Ben is right, on a transversally mounted engine one of the axle shafts is always shorter and it will torque steer in that direction.

You'll get used to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Integras were designed with equal length half shafts to reduce torque steer. The wheel offset that I asked about is a valid question as it can lead to a increased scrub radius and torque steer.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please do not ever report wtq again unless you report it correctly. 115 ft-lb of wtq in first gear on an Integra would equate to about 10 ft-lb of engine torque.
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Ok, sorry I used an estimation of the torque output of the OP's engine and left out gear multiplication of torque. Bottom line is it is still probably putting out twice as much torque at the wheels as a stock Integra will.
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