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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:05 AM
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To make a long story short, my motor has pistons .016 out of bore and .015 taken off the head running a .065 headgasket, went out yesterday to set base timing for the tune, most I could get out of it was 9 deg. Removed the dizzy to slot the holes to allow more advance, completed that, re-installed the dizzy, hooked everything back up, car started for about 5 sec at a funky idle, so I shut it off to look over everything, everything looked fine. Re-cranked the motor and it sounded like all the plugs were not even in the motor ie. no compression. Re-looked at the cam gears and sure enough the intake slipped a couple teeth. So I frantically remove everything, get the timing belt off the cam gears, set crank to TDC and cam gears, put the belt back on. I am running a GReddy belt and my Valvesprings have a 100lb seat pressure, for the life of me no matter how hard I try to pull up on the tensioner lever where the spring goes I cannot get the tensioner to tighten the belt. I know this method is incorrect but with this stiff belt, the spring just does not do the trick. I just pulled so hard that the pliers slipped and now i have a black knot on my forehead and the tensioner didnt even move at all, it fully un compresses the belt and if you push down on it, it moves just fine. I just tensioned the belt a couple months back when I installed new Cam Gears and it was the first time ever doing it and I had ZERO issues, now it wont even budge. I need to know what I can do to get this thing tightened. I tried the Haynes method and it leaves the Exhaust Cam side tight but the Intake side is loose, tried the method 6 to 7 times with no luck, I did it before myself with the coathanger method but now its no worky.

I also think I installed the dizzy backwards even though Haynes says its impossible to do, I cant seem to find any marks that relate to how the dizzy goes in correctly, when I remove the Dizzy Cap, which way should the white portion on the rotor face? I am not dumb just never seem to figure out **** by just reading it, if I see it done I can do it, otherwise I typically mess **** up.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:40 AM
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The exhaust should be tighter than the intake side.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:44 AM
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even to the point of when I can pull on the belt on the Int side and begine to slide the belt off? I figured I should not be able to do that. Having my motor the way it is makes lining all this **** up more difficult, when I did it a couple months back, i remember turning clockwise just a hair to make the Int side real snug, lines were perfect, then I pulled up on the tensioner and snugged the Ex. side and it was perfect, no more than 1/2" on Ex side and Int was real snug. i know turning clockwise is wrong but my car does not exactly sit TDC at the mark on the cover, it ends up slightly before or for reference when 1-2 deg of timing would light up at.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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Did you loosen the bolt for the tensioner to allow for it to move? If so, your tensioner could be faulty.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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yes the bolt is definately loose, I can put a screwdrver on it and push down and the belt gets looser, it is not binding or anything.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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Is the belt too long?
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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no its the correct belt, I already had this thing tensioned when I replaced the spring in June, just drove the car 35 miles on Sat doing a little street base tune and had ZERO issues. Got a friend coming over in a little bit to see if he can get it, just sucks I am out of time and need a running car by tomorrow night, should of just left it alone for Evans to mess with.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Got it all put back together, car still wont start, I am thinking I might of somehow fried the dizzy when grinding on it, otherwise I have no idea what to check, going to buy a spark tester now.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> going to buy a spark tester now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't waste your money. Pull a plug, leave it connected to the wire, and ground the threads of the plug. Crank the car and see if you have spark.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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No spark, going to remove the MSD Coil and 6A and install the stock coil to see what happens. Tested the MSD and it is in fact sparking, if the stock coil does not start the car what could it be? The Ignitor? How can I test that?
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Not sure if this will help you 100%, but....

http://www.team-integra.net/se...=1112
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Slapped another OEM Dizzy on and it fired right up, thanks for everyones help.
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