i just got a skink2 im, greddy headers and a dcsports catback with magnaflow cat, for a 2000gsr/civic what i wanted to know is what upgrades should i do to take full advantage of the im? injectors, fuel rail,throttle body? i want to keep it diy.

 

you have intake? throttle body would be nice. did you realize if the gsr got slower? upgrading IM will make it slower. what ecu? chip p28 is good. definitely upgrade cams. ITR or CTR the least. then valvetrain.

 

i would do a tb spacer, or just get a skunk2 im

 

why does everybody say that an upgraded im will make a stock gsr slower?
what if i have a p30 ecu that does not support iab's anyway, would upgrading the im still make it slower?

 

bump! would like to know.

 

im with ya on that too lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammedz6ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would do a tb spacer, or just get a skunk2 im</TD></TR></TABLE>

spacer? NO

skunk2 mani? if you would read, the OP stated he already has one

 

my bad, i didnt see that lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishedturd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why does everybody say that an upgraded im will make a stock gsr slower?
what if i have a p30 ecu that does not support iab's anyway, would upgrading the im still make it slower? </TD></TR></TABLE>

.

 

does anyone have an answer for me????

 

If you want to take full advantage of the i/m then turbo it or get some cams and pistons.

If you car is stock except for the manifold and a p30 you are going to have fuel and igntion maps not made for a GSR so its probably going to make it slower.

 

you would think that if its running on an ecu that does not support iab's but i have a stock gsr im that the iab's would restrict flow because they are never opened and if i get the blox mani it eliminates this problem and allows better flow, ma i wrong?

p.s. cams and pistons come later

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishedturd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you would think that if its running on an ecu that does not support iab's but i have a stock gsr im that the iab's would restrict flow because they are never opened and if i get the blox mani it eliminates this problem and allows better flow, ma i wrong?

p.s. cams and pistons come later</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have no idea what you just said, try retyping in english. The cams and pistons or turbo comment was to the OP

 

[QUOTE=polishedturd]you would think that if its running on an ecu that does not support iab's but i have a stock gsr intake manifold that the iab's would restrict flow because they are never opened and if i get the blox intake manifold it eliminates this problem and allows better flow,am i wrong?

 

bump

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishedturd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=polishedturd]you would think that if its running on an ecu that does not support iab's but i have a stock gsr intake manifold that the iab's would restrict flow because they are never opened and if i get the blox intake manifold it eliminates this problem and allows better flow,am i wrong?

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Why run an ECU that doesnt support IAB's? From what ive always known , unless your doing a slightly aggressive build with cams/pistons and what not , your going to lose some low/midrange power by changing out the Stock GSR Intake Mani , thats why i never got one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by polishedturd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=polishedturd]you would think that if its running on an ecu that does not support iab's but i have a stock gsr intake manifold that the iab's would restrict flow because they are never opened and if i get the blox intake manifold it eliminates this problem and allows better flow,am i wrong?
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With your thinking, you should just cut the top half of the IM off so it can get the most air flow.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cornflake-dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why run an ECU that doesnt support IAB's? From what ive always known , unless your doing a slightly aggressive build with cams/pistons and what not , your going to lose some low/midrange power by changing out the Stock GSR Intake Mani , thats why i never got one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
because that is the ecu that was in the car when i bought it. and i do plan on building the motor im just trying to figure out how to get the most out of the ecu i have now and i thought if i change the intake it would help because that ecu does not support iab's? but im just doing ricer math and need some help that makes sense.

 

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because that is the ecu that was in the car when i bought it. and i do plan on building the motor im just trying to figure out how to get the most out of the ecu i have now and i thought if i change the intake it would help because that ecu does not support iab's? but im just doing ricer math and need some help that makes sense.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you plan on building your motor, leave it the hell alone til then. Save your money for the build and tune.

 

ok, but that doesnt answer my question why it would make it any slower in my case?

 

ok so let me get this straight, if i have i/h/e and i replace my stock IM for a blox IM it will be slower even if my stock IM is not being able to work to its full potential now. is that right?

 

def. cams will fully optimize the im, n tb

 

dont know why its slower, but from experience its absolutely way slower throughout the entire powerband.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek4shizzle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont know why its slower, but from experience its absolutely way slower throughout the entire powerband. </TD></TR></TABLE>
is that with a stock p72 ecu? would a chipped ecu help?
on the last car i had it did really well with the blox intake manifold and no supporting mods so i dont understand?

my last car:
94 eg hatch
internaly stock gsr swap
ebay short ram intake
blox intake manifold
stock gsr exhaust manifold
stock gsr cat
open gsr b-pipe
and a O.G. mugen chipped p28 ecu
not sure on the numbers it put down on the dyno cause i never went but my best pass in the 1/4 was 14.5 @ 97mph on 13" wheels and street tires. so im confused as to why people say it makes it slower.

 

it was stock p72. vtec was weak and no secondaries. a chipped p28 will definitely increase power though.