my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor
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Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (wingstogo44)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wingstogo44 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wat are the gears in it and also how can i keep it stock looking in side and out and make it a lot fast with no one finding out bye looking at it 
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It sounds like you know zero about cars right now. I would start by reading through this forum and others and learning how to do basic maintenance before you worry about making your old Prelude faster. It would be a job even for someone with a shop and tons of experience.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It sounds like you know zero about cars right now. I would start by reading through this forum and others and learning how to do basic maintenance before you worry about making your old Prelude faster. It would be a job even for someone with a shop and tons of experience.
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From: greensboro, nc, usa
Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (wingstogo44)
i know some stuff but i am racing in a stock class and preludesare the main car and i race one as well i they some how got a ton more power then me and the tech guys cant find any thing but i am just wanting to know how to get maybe 10 more hp out of my motor or GEARING so i can keep up
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Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (wingstogo44)
Ah, I see..there's very few parts made for those model Preludes. Sounds like you want a better ratio final drive as far as your gearing, and for more power what is your budget/time frame?
Check here for the best 2nd gen Prelude resource: http://preludepower.com/forums...f=198 If there has been a part made for your car or one that will fit you will likely found out about it there.
Edit:
Haha, for *****&giggles, heres' the parts list they have on preludepower for 2nd gens:
This list contains every Performance part made for the 83-87 Honda Prelude some parts
are listed as Accord because it used the same motor. Most parts have special notes or
part numbers, Please feel free to make any additions and if you need help finding anything
*(SIP)* or Info drop me an email at Rtypeinertia@hotmail.com or on AOL/AIM @
Evocitywerkz. Thank you.
Chris Dodge (JDMET2)
Engines: Paeco (Still In Procuction)
Stage One (146 hp)
Stage SRE (158 hp)
Stage Two (176 hp)
Stage Three (202 hp)
Stage Four (242 hp)
Engine: Paeco Internal (SIP)
Crank
Pistons (custom alum)
Titanium rods
Chrome-moly rods
Main cap girdle
Engine Mount kit: (SIP)
Place Racing (Accord)(B series)
Headers: (Made)
Mugen 4-2-1 W/ Test pipe
Jackson Racing 4-2-1
A/T Engineering 4-2-1
Gude 4-2-1 (Accord)
Rage un-welded4-2-1 (DIY)
Pace 4-2-1
Headers: (SIP)
Paeco 4-1 (Accord 86-89)
D/C Sports 4-2-1 P# (PTHHC5010)
S+S Headers 4-1 P# (5305S)
Pace setter 4-2-1 P# (70-1250)
Exhaust: (Made)
Mugen
Fujitsubo (Japan)
Trust TR (Japan)
Exhaust: (SIP)
Paeco Prima-power (P# HO-16)
Pacesetter P# (88-1417)
Evocity Wërkz Build spec (Email me)
Custom
Cams: (Made)
Jackson Racing
Kent cams (U.K.).
Cams: (SIP)
Paeco P# (HO-6800, HO-7400, HO-7800, HO-8600)
Paeco Valve springs (Dual)
Paeco valve retainers
Crow cams (AUS) P#(ET, BS, ES2/3,BT (131000)(ES1, ET2)(246000)
Web cams P#'s (35-050 Fi .35-040 Carb .35-191 Carb Racing)
Gude P# (HACSO1 Carb)
JG Engine Dynamics P# (6060,7560)
Heads: (Made)
Mugen (Carb only)
Heads: (SIP)
Paeco Prelude (Send core)
Gude (Accord head) P# (HARHO1)
Head gasket: (SIP)
FELPRO
Paeco copper gasket in (.030,.060)
Manifolds: (Made)
A/T Engineering (Canada)
Manifolds: (SIP) (Carb only)
Autoquip (New Zealand)
TWM induction. (Usa)
TWM induction (ES only)
Custom
Carbs: (Made)
Keihin 2bbl & 3bbl
Jackson racing Carb kit (For stock carbs)
Mikuni (Weber copy)
Weber DCOE (40, 45, 50, 55)
Dellorto DHLA (40, 45, 50)
Filters: (SIP & Made)
Forza panel filter (Japan) (B20A5)
K&N P# (33-2521 Fi, E-2925 Carb)
Computer Chip: (SIP)
Jet ECU P# (514+0035)
Pulleys: (SIP)
Paeco ALUM (Crank)
Transmission: (SIP)
Paeco fly wheel ( MK3 5lbs, MK4 8lbs)
Clutchmasters P# (Flywheel: FW-615-AL, Clutch stages 0-5)
Pacesetter Short Shifter Adj. P# (01-0250)
Centerforce P# (DF508340)
ACT P#'s (Carb: HA1-HD00, HA1-HDR4, HA1-HDR6)(Si: HA2-HD00, HA2-HDSS, HA2-HDR4,
HA2-HDR6)
OPM limited slip (Call)
Evocity Wërkz tranny build spec (Auto)
Torque Rod bushings: (SIP)
Evocity Wërkz (Top)
Ignition: (SIP)
MSD Blaster II and III
Crane Cams Ignition system
Any external coil
Wires: (SIP)
Magnecor
Splitfire
NGK (Blue)
Stock
Only use NGK or OEM for best performance
Spark plugs: (SIP)
Splitfire
NGK-R (Best)
NGK
BOSCH Platinum (Do not use the platinum +4 plugs)
Body kits: (Made)
Mugen front bumper
Mugen rear wing
Jackson Racing Interlude kit (FB, SS, RB)
Value Sport lip spoiler (Japan)
Style Auto (Germany)
Stock Si wing
Stock Base/Xx model wing
Body kits: (SIP)
Erebuni #317 (FB, SS, RB)
Evocity Wërkz (FB, RB, LS)
SilverGhost Motorsports (Australia)(FB, SS, RB, HS, WING)( nismo_r@dodo@dodo.com.au)
Custom
Suspension: (Made)
Jamex -40mm springs
Jackson Racing springs (1.5" drop)
Jackson Racing stabilizer bars
Bilstein BTS-Kit
KYB New-SR (Japan)
Tokico Prodora-G Struts (Japan)
Tokico Illumnia adj. P# (F BU2823, R BU2825)
Monroe Gas struts
DC Sports springs (???)
Koni sway bars (F&R)
Tanabe H200 coil springs (Japan)
RSST H150 Sport springs (Japan)
Heroes Racing spring kit (Japan)
Spats Front strut bar (Japan) (B20A5 only)
Mugen sports damper (Tuned)
Mugen electrically controlled damper (Tunable)
Eibach Pro-kit (1.3”)
Suspension: (SIP)
Paeco bushings
Ground control w/ ERS springs (Natural High Racing) (Tunable)
Tokico premium struts (Blues) P# (Front HB2689, Rear HB2046)
KYB GR-2 struts
Ignalls Camber kit (Front)
Weapon-R coil overs P# (STS11)
Evocity Wërkz rear strut bar
Addco rear sway bar P# (404+609+611+014)
Koni struts (OPM)(Call)
Koni Reds (Classic Garage)(Can be re-valved)
BILSTEIN- made by ennepetal (japan)(wide shaft)
Suspension Techniques (1.0")
Intrax (2.0”)
Brakes: (Made)
Jackson Racing caliper kit 2-Pot
Jackson Racing cross-drilled rotors
Jackson Racing SS brake lines
Brakes: (SIP)
Hi spec 300mm disc 4-pot racing brake conversion (U.K.)
Si calipers 85-87 (Good upgrade for the base model)
Accord calipers LX-i 86-89
AEM/Nissin pads P# (26-051)
Tecna-Fit SS braided brake lines (Natural High Racing)
Axxis metal master pads P#'s ( Si 23-334-01)
Brembo rear rotors P# (083-2147)(You need new bearings)
Ferrodo pads (Base model)
Power slot rotors
EBC Discs and Pads
Wheels: (Made)
Mugen CF-48 (13x5.5, 14x6, 15x6, 37mm offset)
Wheels: (SIP)
Any 4x100 offset 37-45 up to 18x7.0
For a performance application don’t go over a 15-inch wheel
Steering Wheels: (Made)
Mugen SW-36
Mugen SW-36 w/ Cover
Steering Wheels: (SIP)
MOMO hub
Any MOMO or Sparco wheels
Check here for the best 2nd gen Prelude resource: http://preludepower.com/forums...f=198 If there has been a part made for your car or one that will fit you will likely found out about it there.
Edit:
Haha, for *****&giggles, heres' the parts list they have on preludepower for 2nd gens:
Originally Posted by preludepower
This list contains every Performance part made for the 83-87 Honda Prelude some parts
are listed as Accord because it used the same motor. Most parts have special notes or
part numbers, Please feel free to make any additions and if you need help finding anything
*(SIP)* or Info drop me an email at Rtypeinertia@hotmail.com or on AOL/AIM @
Evocitywerkz. Thank you.
Chris Dodge (JDMET2)
Engines: Paeco (Still In Procuction)
Stage One (146 hp)
Stage SRE (158 hp)
Stage Two (176 hp)
Stage Three (202 hp)
Stage Four (242 hp)
Engine: Paeco Internal (SIP)
Crank
Pistons (custom alum)
Titanium rods
Chrome-moly rods
Main cap girdle
Engine Mount kit: (SIP)
Place Racing (Accord)(B series)
Headers: (Made)
Mugen 4-2-1 W/ Test pipe
Jackson Racing 4-2-1
A/T Engineering 4-2-1
Gude 4-2-1 (Accord)
Rage un-welded4-2-1 (DIY)
Pace 4-2-1
Headers: (SIP)
Paeco 4-1 (Accord 86-89)
D/C Sports 4-2-1 P# (PTHHC5010)
S+S Headers 4-1 P# (5305S)
Pace setter 4-2-1 P# (70-1250)
Exhaust: (Made)
Mugen
Fujitsubo (Japan)
Trust TR (Japan)
Exhaust: (SIP)
Paeco Prima-power (P# HO-16)
Pacesetter P# (88-1417)
Evocity Wërkz Build spec (Email me)
Custom
Cams: (Made)
Jackson Racing
Kent cams (U.K.).
Cams: (SIP)
Paeco P# (HO-6800, HO-7400, HO-7800, HO-8600)
Paeco Valve springs (Dual)
Paeco valve retainers
Crow cams (AUS) P#(ET, BS, ES2/3,BT (131000)(ES1, ET2)(246000)
Web cams P#'s (35-050 Fi .35-040 Carb .35-191 Carb Racing)
Gude P# (HACSO1 Carb)
JG Engine Dynamics P# (6060,7560)
Heads: (Made)
Mugen (Carb only)
Heads: (SIP)
Paeco Prelude (Send core)
Gude (Accord head) P# (HARHO1)
Head gasket: (SIP)
FELPRO
Paeco copper gasket in (.030,.060)
Manifolds: (Made)
A/T Engineering (Canada)
Manifolds: (SIP) (Carb only)
Autoquip (New Zealand)
TWM induction. (Usa)
TWM induction (ES only)
Custom
Carbs: (Made)
Keihin 2bbl & 3bbl
Jackson racing Carb kit (For stock carbs)
Mikuni (Weber copy)
Weber DCOE (40, 45, 50, 55)
Dellorto DHLA (40, 45, 50)
Filters: (SIP & Made)
Forza panel filter (Japan) (B20A5)
K&N P# (33-2521 Fi, E-2925 Carb)
Computer Chip: (SIP)
Jet ECU P# (514+0035)
Pulleys: (SIP)
Paeco ALUM (Crank)
Transmission: (SIP)
Paeco fly wheel ( MK3 5lbs, MK4 8lbs)
Clutchmasters P# (Flywheel: FW-615-AL, Clutch stages 0-5)
Pacesetter Short Shifter Adj. P# (01-0250)
Centerforce P# (DF508340)
ACT P#'s (Carb: HA1-HD00, HA1-HDR4, HA1-HDR6)(Si: HA2-HD00, HA2-HDSS, HA2-HDR4,
HA2-HDR6)
OPM limited slip (Call)
Evocity Wërkz tranny build spec (Auto)
Torque Rod bushings: (SIP)
Evocity Wërkz (Top)
Ignition: (SIP)
MSD Blaster II and III
Crane Cams Ignition system
Any external coil
Wires: (SIP)
Magnecor
Splitfire
NGK (Blue)
Stock
Only use NGK or OEM for best performance
Spark plugs: (SIP)
Splitfire
NGK-R (Best)
NGK
BOSCH Platinum (Do not use the platinum +4 plugs)
Body kits: (Made)
Mugen front bumper
Mugen rear wing
Jackson Racing Interlude kit (FB, SS, RB)
Value Sport lip spoiler (Japan)
Style Auto (Germany)
Stock Si wing
Stock Base/Xx model wing
Body kits: (SIP)
Erebuni #317 (FB, SS, RB)
Evocity Wërkz (FB, RB, LS)
SilverGhost Motorsports (Australia)(FB, SS, RB, HS, WING)( nismo_r@dodo@dodo.com.au)
Custom
Suspension: (Made)
Jamex -40mm springs
Jackson Racing springs (1.5" drop)
Jackson Racing stabilizer bars
Bilstein BTS-Kit
KYB New-SR (Japan)
Tokico Prodora-G Struts (Japan)
Tokico Illumnia adj. P# (F BU2823, R BU2825)
Monroe Gas struts
DC Sports springs (???)
Koni sway bars (F&R)
Tanabe H200 coil springs (Japan)
RSST H150 Sport springs (Japan)
Heroes Racing spring kit (Japan)
Spats Front strut bar (Japan) (B20A5 only)
Mugen sports damper (Tuned)
Mugen electrically controlled damper (Tunable)
Eibach Pro-kit (1.3”)
Suspension: (SIP)
Paeco bushings
Ground control w/ ERS springs (Natural High Racing) (Tunable)
Tokico premium struts (Blues) P# (Front HB2689, Rear HB2046)
KYB GR-2 struts
Ignalls Camber kit (Front)
Weapon-R coil overs P# (STS11)
Evocity Wërkz rear strut bar
Addco rear sway bar P# (404+609+611+014)
Koni struts (OPM)(Call)
Koni Reds (Classic Garage)(Can be re-valved)
BILSTEIN- made by ennepetal (japan)(wide shaft)
Suspension Techniques (1.0")
Intrax (2.0”)
Brakes: (Made)
Jackson Racing caliper kit 2-Pot
Jackson Racing cross-drilled rotors
Jackson Racing SS brake lines
Brakes: (SIP)
Hi spec 300mm disc 4-pot racing brake conversion (U.K.)
Si calipers 85-87 (Good upgrade for the base model)
Accord calipers LX-i 86-89
AEM/Nissin pads P# (26-051)
Tecna-Fit SS braided brake lines (Natural High Racing)
Axxis metal master pads P#'s ( Si 23-334-01)
Brembo rear rotors P# (083-2147)(You need new bearings)
Ferrodo pads (Base model)
Power slot rotors
EBC Discs and Pads
Wheels: (Made)
Mugen CF-48 (13x5.5, 14x6, 15x6, 37mm offset)
Wheels: (SIP)
Any 4x100 offset 37-45 up to 18x7.0
For a performance application don’t go over a 15-inch wheel
Steering Wheels: (Made)
Mugen SW-36
Mugen SW-36 w/ Cover
Steering Wheels: (SIP)
MOMO hub
Any MOMO or Sparco wheels
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From: greensboro, nc, usa
Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (wingstogo44)
how would i do a final drive ratio and were would i buy the partsis there another honda that makes a good "drive like an lxi and wat part of the trany would i take it out
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Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (wingstogo44)
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From: houston
Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (wingstogo44)
the 1gen teg tranny internals fit in the A20 tranny housing, but while a manual tranny is easy it's still not for the inexperienced to try and tear one down.
do you have a carb or FI ?
do you have a carb or FI ?
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From: greensboro, nc, usa
Re: my 1985 prelude with a 86 motor (night)
i redid the hole thing but the trany i think we kepted da bell houseing but yeah you doing this for a street car? if u didnt under stand i can try again lol
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