so i posted about 6 months ago with a build up thread on my ek which just started to run a few days ago. i swapped a k20z3. something i wouldn't recommend. but its possible. here are some issues that i had to deal with in doing the swap.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1980301

tb- i converted the engine harness to 03 rsx type s. including the actual tb (i just got a bdl tb) and got all the sensors off a stock 03 rsx type s i am also using the original ek throttle cable with a bracket that was made to hold it to the tb. ill post pics soon.

Ecu- i bought k-pro for a rsx type s. and got the conversion harness from r*krew most of my stuff is from them cause i have a buddy that works there. along with the conversion harness comes a brown plug that took me a week to find out what it was for. turns out its just for a silinoid (sp) that should be it for ecu. once you convert the engine harness to 03 rsx its not that bad.

Speedo and shifter- these issues have not yet been figured out. im planning on using a s2k gauge cluster for the speedo but for now i dont have one. and the shifter is a tough one. so i tried to use the 06 shifter box but from the angle in needs to travel in the exhaust canal which doesn't work due to the heat might melt the cables together. so i ended up buying a Revo short shift box and rsx type s cables. and a heat shield i forget what brand it is. ill also find that out for you. so in using the rsx cables it messed the entire configuration of the shift pattern up. basically flipped upside down. 1st is where 2nd is and 2nd is where 1st is and 3rd is where 4th is... and so on. reverse is all the way over to the right and up. its goofy ive gotten use to it already and i have only have had the car going on my third day. but its annoying. ill try to find a solution. it only does it cause the 06 box does the opposite. it pushes instead of pulls the cables which connect to the tranny.

more issues...
axles- i came across an issue with the axles idk if i got a bad set or something but i bought some r*crew axles and it didn't work out. they were about a inch short on both sides. and your intermediate shaft is different so don't mess that up... haha when the r*crew axles were installed they got jammed so when i attempted to remove them i had to buy a whole new intermediate shaft which wasn't cheap because they the dealership told me that they are "discontinuing" the production of that part because its being revised" idk some bullshit along those lines. so i bought hasport axles and they fit fine.

oil pan- the 06 uses a completely different oil pick up so the oil pan sits about an 1 1/2 inches to 2 inches off the ground. which for me is a little nerve racking. again i haven't figured anything out. really the only thing you can do is buy a whole oil system from a rsx type s and install it and use a ep3 or k24 pan cause the pick up on the 06 wont fit any of those. another option is dry sump kits. basically eliminates the pan. which i am saving up for now. ends up costing about 3k.

off the top of my head that should be all the issues.

honestly i would have done it differently. i would have used a rsx type s. this engine is a huge bitch. idk if its worth having the low mileage but i cant really talk cause my motor runs great if you decide to do the swap ill be more than willing to help. id hate for anyone to go through all the **** i went through. took me almost 9 months and just over 10k from start to finish. it was not fun. haha

if anyone else has done this swap id like to talk with you.






Modified by Thumpinmonk3y at 3:32 PM 11/30/2007

 

is there a reason you went with the new Si motor rather than a k24 build or another motor more simmilar to your chassis?

you didnt keep the RBC mani?

LOL ya that motor has the balencer wshafts in the pan like the k24's but require you to machine the block out

interesting fact........the Z3 head casting = A2 head casting,

you have a longer top timing chain guide.

SWAP blocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im still working on my k24 build, rsx-s oil pan, pump,head etc im not doing anything new LOL

 

sweet! ive seen your build on other thread im in the procces of saving up for my build. so i think i will pm you for help

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rock_Star &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sweet! ive seen your build on other thread im in the procces of saving up for my build. so i think i will pm you for help </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea just let me know.

 

Sweet! Looking forward to reading it when i get more time tonight.

 

bump

 

Beautious. i would love to have that.

 

bump

 

sooo how much money for how many horsepower??

 

is the RBC mani out of ep3 only? which mani is the best for the k swap?

 

so $10,000 for 200HP

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sicones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so $10,000 for 200HP </TD></TR></TABLE>

$10,000 for 200 STOCK FROM THE FACTORY RELIABLE HP. Thats pretty impressive if you ask me!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dasfinc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

$10,000 for 200 STOCK FROM THE FACTORY RELIABLE HP. Thats pretty impressive if you ask me!</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's funny. h22 has 200hp from the factory also and I've seen them installed for less than $3000.

Nice swap I'm really disheartened you spent $10,000. They can be done for around $7,000 now pretty easily.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's funny. h22 has 200hp from the factory also and I've seen them installed for less than $3000.

Nice swap I'm really disheartened you spent $10,000. They can be done for around $7,000 now pretty easily.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if tuned correctly this car should be running 12 flat on slicks. you would probably have to boost an h22 to run faster than the k. its impressive how much power this motor puts out, if uve never ridden in a swapped k with kpro u'll never believe me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dasfinc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

$10,000 for 200 STOCK FROM THE FACTORY RELIABLE HP. Thats pretty impressive if you ask me!</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it's not.

 

$10k? Ouch.

Well done, nonetheless.

 

Turbo D owns

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sicones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so $10,000 for 200HP </TD></TR></TABLE>he didnt dyno it yet right? i seriously doubt this motor will make as little as 200 hp at the crank. i seriously doubt it will only make 200whp, even.

my buddy swapped a k20a2 into his civic with i/h/e. when he tuned it he netted 230whp.

i dont know why you guys are going back and forth arguing if 10k is worth 200hp. that has little to do with this thread.

10k does hurt, but i guess thats what happens when you take one for the team hopefully people will learn from this.

 

my h22 swap went like this

96 Prelude Vtec (3100) totalled
94 Prelude SI ( h22 was installed, then totalled this one) this prelude cost 600
92 VX hatch 600...

so 4300 invested in 2 prelude and a civic, and probably 5k more in all the goodies and all the upgrades i did to the preludes..... I had bad luck with preludes so i decided to go with a h22 swapped hatch. I Have races a K20-r swapped 00 EK hatch and i beat him by roughly 1/2-3/4 of a car length....

i havent checked the specs of the k20r but i know i have 193whp/165wtq....and it was a fabulous race..although ANY street racing is dangerous and should not be done.

Basically, if u just buy a h22 swap and a civic, it really isnt too expensive, but after buying prelude after prelude after prelude it adds up, especially when u buy a lot of nice jdm goodies for them that get destroyed in the wrecks... prelude parts arent cheapo like civics...

 

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false statement!!!

sucks you spent 10k man! should of just went with a tsx motor and still would of had more power.. any more pics or any videos?

 

Yeah, $10,000 is steep but so what. He did what he wanted to do and now he has a K20 hatch and you guys don't. By the way, a brand new K20 from an '07 model is far more reliable than a salvage-yard-120,000-miles-H22.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hardedge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, $10,000 is steep but so what. He did what he wanted to do and now he has a K20 hatch and you guys don't. By the way, a brand new K20 from an '07 model is far more reliable than a salvage-yard-120,000-miles-H22. </TD></TR></TABLE>

a h22 longblock with 30-50k from h motors is $1300

And I guarrantee you his motor is very unlikely to be an 07' model and less than 20-30k

 

*** how much it cost you bro.. nice k20 civic !!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jus_spooln_wicha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*** how much it cost you bro.. nice k20 civic !!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thumpinmonk3y &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> id hate for anyone to go through all the **** i went through. took me almost 9 months and just over 10k from start to finish. it was not fun. haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

id love to watch this scream at PIR when it opens back up! congrats on the build!