Which material should I use on the end portion on a swaybar?
Hi!
I want to make a solid sleeve instead of the rubber that goes on the end portion on the swaybar where the endlinks mate.
I saw some for sale made out of aluminum.
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm not very sure about that choice.
I was thinking about material that laying around where I work such has:
-oil lite ( it's a material that we use to make bushing because it's self lubricate)
-Teflon or Nylon
-Aluminum-bronze
-Steel.
If I use the plastic one, I will make a metal sleeve inside so the bolt from the endlink won't rip it around the hole.
Any ideas or experience for that matter?
I want to make a solid sleeve instead of the rubber that goes on the end portion on the swaybar where the endlinks mate.
I saw some for sale made out of aluminum.
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm not very sure about that choice.
I was thinking about material that laying around where I work such has:
-oil lite ( it's a material that we use to make bushing because it's self lubricate)
-Teflon or Nylon
-Aluminum-bronze
-Steel.
If I use the plastic one, I will make a metal sleeve inside so the bolt from the endlink won't rip it around the hole.
Any ideas or experience for that matter?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francois »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi!
I want to make a solid sleeve instead of the rubber that goes on the end portion on the swaybar where the endlinks mate.
I saw some for sale made out of aluminum.
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm not very sure about that choice.
I was thinking about material that laying around where I work such has:
-oil lite ( it's a material that we use to make bushing because it's self lubricate)
-Teflon or Nylon
-Aluminum-bronze
-Steel.
If I use the plastic one, I will make a metal sleeve inside so the bolt from the endlink won't rip it around the hole.
Any ideas or experience for that matter?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can use many materials for the end links, however, you must design it correctly to deal with the kinematics of the anti-roll bar (ARB). Honda uses the stacked rubber grommet design because it allows quite a bit of compliance between the ARB end and the frame mounting point. This allows the thread rod end link component to rotate relative to the ARB as the ARB is twisted when you are driving through a corner or you run over a one-wheel bump. In addition, the rubber grommets helps to damp out road vibration and eliminate sqeaking in this area. So rubber works great for lower performance applications and where people are concerned with transmitted vibrations into the cabin.
If you make the bushings from a rigid material using the same design as the rubber Honda parts, then there will be binding in the ARB and you'll likely bend the threaded shaft. So, you need to allow the bushing or the threaded shaft to rotate freely about the ARB AND the frame mount. For high performance applications such as racing, rod ends are used to allow the rotation and to eliminate any compliance with the end link. They are stiff axially but allow free rotation. Also, by using rod end or other metal based end links, you will effectively make your ARB rate stiffer.
I want to make a solid sleeve instead of the rubber that goes on the end portion on the swaybar where the endlinks mate.
I saw some for sale made out of aluminum.
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm not very sure about that choice.
I was thinking about material that laying around where I work such has:
-oil lite ( it's a material that we use to make bushing because it's self lubricate)
-Teflon or Nylon
-Aluminum-bronze
-Steel.
If I use the plastic one, I will make a metal sleeve inside so the bolt from the endlink won't rip it around the hole.
Any ideas or experience for that matter?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can use many materials for the end links, however, you must design it correctly to deal with the kinematics of the anti-roll bar (ARB). Honda uses the stacked rubber grommet design because it allows quite a bit of compliance between the ARB end and the frame mounting point. This allows the thread rod end link component to rotate relative to the ARB as the ARB is twisted when you are driving through a corner or you run over a one-wheel bump. In addition, the rubber grommets helps to damp out road vibration and eliminate sqeaking in this area. So rubber works great for lower performance applications and where people are concerned with transmitted vibrations into the cabin.
If you make the bushings from a rigid material using the same design as the rubber Honda parts, then there will be binding in the ARB and you'll likely bend the threaded shaft. So, you need to allow the bushing or the threaded shaft to rotate freely about the ARB AND the frame mount. For high performance applications such as racing, rod ends are used to allow the rotation and to eliminate any compliance with the end link. They are stiff axially but allow free rotation. Also, by using rod end or other metal based end links, you will effectively make your ARB rate stiffer.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francois »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi!
I want to make a solid sleeve instead of the rubber that goes on the end portion on the swaybar where the endlinks mate.
I saw some for sale made out of aluminum.
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm not very sure about that choice.
I was thinking about material that laying around where I work such has:
-oil lite ( it's a material that we use to make bushing because it's self lubricate)
-Teflon or Nylon
-Aluminum-bronze
-Steel.
If I use the plastic one, I will make a metal sleeve inside so the bolt from the endlink won't rip it around the hole.
Any ideas or experience for that matter?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey , I used skateboard wheel bearings in the end of my Type R bar along with rodends for endlinks.
I want to make a solid sleeve instead of the rubber that goes on the end portion on the swaybar where the endlinks mate.
I saw some for sale made out of aluminum.
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm not very sure about that choice.
I was thinking about material that laying around where I work such has:
-oil lite ( it's a material that we use to make bushing because it's self lubricate)
-Teflon or Nylon
-Aluminum-bronze
-Steel.
If I use the plastic one, I will make a metal sleeve inside so the bolt from the endlink won't rip it around the hole.
Any ideas or experience for that matter?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey , I used skateboard wheel bearings in the end of my Type R bar along with rodends for endlinks.
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