im on si rims with bridgestone potenzas which have camber on the OUTSIDE i had them flipped so the camber would be on the outer side. About a month ago i hit a curb pretty bad and the left front tire took all the damage (hit the curb head on, turned the wheel slightly to the right so the front left took the most damage) i took it to get aligned right after but it still pulls to the left and i get sudden pulls when doing slight movements such as changing lanes. Do you guys think i could have bent or messed something up? . i checked but nothing visible shows. Thanks

 

yes something is damaged, do you have the old numbers from when you did the alignment after you hit the curb

 

yes

 

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Definitely.

Do you have your alignment print-outs? Post the specs.

 

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no.. i threw them away, but i will be getting it re-aligned on monday ( i have a lifetime alignment plan) and will post up the results. what could be damaged though?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Definitely.

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will have some on monday however i did tell them to concentrate on the toe and get it as close to zero as possible. what could be damaged?

 

Lower control arm, subframe, knuckle, etc.

When you take the car in for an alignment, ask them to check out the left front suspension for bent control arms and damaged mounting points.

 

i figured. ****, hopefully nothing major

 

the caster could be a degree off ont he wheel you hit causing bump steer and camber thrust. I'd say upper control arm / lca

 

ok got the alignment done, is this ok?



now, the guy said that i get the drift because with the impact of the hit, the subframe slightly moved. You guys think he's right?

 

your beam has shifted/bent . the reason i think that is your ft camber and caster read outs are flip flopped. usually with a bent arm or knuckle one side would be out of whack and the other would be on par .i hope this helps

 

damn.. will this effect the vehicle in any kind of way? he was telling me that in order to get it back straight.. wasn't going to be a walk in the park

 

if you hit something on the left side it will explain why the left side is not the same as the right the camber and caster.

im going to take a guess and say your lca is bent because the caster is off

 

so my subframe has moved?

 

it could still be a few things. physically go look at the control arms to see if its bent. look at the subframe bolts and see if the subframe has shifted...u should be able to see some marks if it has moved or not, and look at the side that u hit. since the caster is off one degree. your car is lowered?

i think its the subframe that has moved...go under and look at the subframe.

 

but if it has moved, will it be hard to re-align it in place?

 

Front subframe bolt holes are usually slotted or larger than needed, and the bolts have very thick, large washers to allow some adjustment. If it was shifted when the impact occurred, you should be able to see round marks on the subframe where the washers used to be before it shifted.

If you don't see any round marks around the washers, then it most likely did not move.

So if it was shifted, usually it's just a matter of loosening the subframe bolts and shifting it back into place. This would have to be done on an alignment rack, or a frame straightening machine.

 

going to check it today

 

ok so i checked the sub-frame and it seems fine .. any other theories/suggestions?

 

prolly ur lower control arm prolly ! i had this problem ! i changed a lower control arm it came closer ! my caster was pushed back ! after i went to DAREN AT WESTEND ALIGMENT and he worked his magic with the subframe and everythings back to normal !

 

pm'd .. btw is this the one in gardena?

 

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somethings bent, but your post alignment specs are kinda ok.

the cross camber and cross caster is not good. but liveable.

looking at your previous alignment, no wonder you got a lot of tire wear.

once again proves, ITS NOT THE CAMBER, ITS THE TOE THAT CAUSES UNEVEN TIRE WEAR.

 

i know that camber doenst wear out tires, this isnt about my tires being worn out. This is about the car steering/pulling/veering to the left. Hopefully by the end of the week i can get it checked out

 

yeah i know, just using your post to make another point.

driving on already uneven tires will affect your tracking.

and yeah, the cross camber and cross caster affects your tracking as well.
so no real surprise to me.

 

im pretty sure something is bent, its just a matter of pin pointing what it is.

 

well again. of course something is bent.

and very typically the LCA and the subframe are the first to go.

so thats what you start to look at. whats the mystery?