Which block should I sleeve?
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Alot of you on here know I'm building a turbo motor. That being said should I keep my C5 block for safe keeping and sleeve a GSR block?
I'd hate if I ever tossed a rod through the C5 block (
) and then have to use the C1 block if I ever wanted to return to N/A.
I'd hate if I ever tossed a rod through the C5 block (
) and then have to use the C1 block if I ever wanted to return to N/A.
They're essentially the same block, so I wouldn't concern myself too much with it, unless you like the "C5" stamp.
It doesn't seem like it would make much sense to purchase another block if you already have a perfectly serviceable one.
It doesn't seem like it would make much sense to purchase another block if you already have a perfectly serviceable one.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buy this one for $350, and voila.</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks but I have friend w/ a GSR block I'm looking into thats already sleeved.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're essentially the same block, so I wouldn't concern myself too much with it, unless you like the "C5" stamp.
It doesn't seem like it would make much sense to purchase another block if you already have a perfectly serviceable one. </TD></TR></TABLE>Well thats why I'm asking what you guys think. Always helps to ask before making a real decision.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It depends, what are the main bearing colors?</TD></TR></TABLE>Have yet to find out.
It doesn't seem like it would make much sense to purchase another block if you already have a perfectly serviceable one. </TD></TR></TABLE>Well thats why I'm asking what you guys think. Always helps to ask before making a real decision.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It depends, what are the main bearing colors?</TD></TR></TABLE>Have yet to find out.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well thats why I'm asking what you guys think. Always helps to ask before making a real decision.
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Very true. I can understand wanting to keep the C5 block untouched if you have any plans in the future to sell the engine or the entire car, in which case it would potentially bolster resale value. However, if this is a project and you intend to keep the car and engine in your possession, I'd probably just go ahead and work with the C5.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Very true. I can understand wanting to keep the C5 block untouched if you have any plans in the future to sell the engine or the entire car, in which case it would potentially bolster resale value. However, if this is a project and you intend to keep the car and engine in your possession, I'd probably just go ahead and work with the C5.
Let me ask a related question:
If you buy a block that's disassembled, that doesn't have bearings, you can't use OEM bearings without knowing the colors, right?
ACL bearings are pretty much my only choice?
If you buy a block that's disassembled, that doesn't have bearings, you can't use OEM bearings without knowing the colors, right?
ACL bearings are pretty much my only choice?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Very true. I can understand wanting to keep the C5 block untouched if you have any plans in the future to sell the engine or the entire car, in which case it would potentially bolster resale value. However, if this is a project and you intend to keep the car and engine in your possession, I'd probably just go ahead and work with the C5. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Now this exactally how is how I think.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I was just trying to preserve the stock block because the B18C/C1 blocks are a dine a dozen compared to the C5's. I don't see me selling the car anytime in the distant future but still wanted to play it safe and not make a wrong decision.
I'm not building a "dyno queen" just to have the bragging rights to say I have XXX-WHP. I know I could make 350-400 WHP w/ ease but I'm afraid to try that on the stock sleeves.
Very true. I can understand wanting to keep the C5 block untouched if you have any plans in the future to sell the engine or the entire car, in which case it would potentially bolster resale value. However, if this is a project and you intend to keep the car and engine in your possession, I'd probably just go ahead and work with the C5. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Now this exactally how is how I think.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ I was just trying to preserve the stock block because the B18C/C1 blocks are a dine a dozen compared to the C5's. I don't see me selling the car anytime in the distant future but still wanted to play it safe and not make a wrong decision.
I'm not building a "dyno queen" just to have the bragging rights to say I have XXX-WHP. I know I could make 350-400 WHP w/ ease but I'm afraid to try that on the stock sleeves.
G-F-K, you can find some decent information about sizing bearings here: http://forums.evans-tuning.com...t=326
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me ask a related question:
If you buy a block that's disassembled, that doesn't have bearings, you can't use OEM bearings without knowing the colors, right?
ACL bearings are pretty much my only choice?</TD></TR></TABLE>
To know which OEM bearings you need. Take a snap gauge measurement of the main and rod bearings. Take a mic measurement of the main and rod journals. Do some math and get the bearings the give you the clearance you are shooting for. Or go with ACL's, which are greens.
If you buy a block that's disassembled, that doesn't have bearings, you can't use OEM bearings without knowing the colors, right?
ACL bearings are pretty much my only choice?</TD></TR></TABLE>
To know which OEM bearings you need. Take a snap gauge measurement of the main and rod bearings. Take a mic measurement of the main and rod journals. Do some math and get the bearings the give you the clearance you are shooting for. Or go with ACL's, which are greens.
I am actually going through the same delimma,,I turboed the type R but, tuned it very conservative=never enough power. I was considering even sleeving a B20 block and doing a ls/vtec or the c1 not sure which would be cost effective yet..but definitly want to keep the original c5 safe.
I've always wanted to boost my ITR .... a nice Full-Race stage 1 with the GT28RS and Hondata S300 .... would be dope.
However ....
If I ever did decide to go boost, I'd pick my completely stock and low mile C5 and put it on a engine stand. I'd go out and buy a C1, or jdm B18C and work with that.
I'd say go for that GSR bottom end, and see if you can find a cheap used B16 head somewhere, and keep your C5 complete and intact. Polish her up real nice, and if you ever want to go N/A or sell the car, swap her back in.
However ....
If I ever did decide to go boost, I'd pick my completely stock and low mile C5 and put it on a engine stand. I'd go out and buy a C1, or jdm B18C and work with that.
I'd say go for that GSR bottom end, and see if you can find a cheap used B16 head somewhere, and keep your C5 complete and intact. Polish her up real nice, and if you ever want to go N/A or sell the car, swap her back in.
just buy a blank GE block and let them do their magic. keep the R block as a spare or for when you decide to get rid of the turbo setup.
I wish I woulda kept my block as a spare instead of building it for turbo.
I wish I woulda kept my block as a spare instead of building it for turbo.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just buy a blank GE block and let them do their magic. keep the R block as a spare or for when you decide to get rid of the turbo setup.
I wish I woulda kept my block as a spare instead of building it for turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wish I woulda kept my block as a spare instead of building it for turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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If I'd not been bitten by boost I would have never made this thread.
Oh well theres no turning back now. But I plan to keep my C5 block should I ever go back N/A.
Oh well theres no turning back now. But I plan to keep my C5 block should I ever go back N/A.
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