OK so I bought a set off stainless steal braided brake lines off of ebay a while back and 3 races ago they couldn't take the abuse of hpde and pretty much blew a whole in the left one and the right one was near same but the plastic coating was holding the fluid in. This caused me to all the sudden not have brakes in the middle of a run braking into turn 4 of VIR(car is fine). Anyways What is a good brand to buy? I was thinking about Russel. Also I used rbf 600 fluid and was using valvoline's fluid that supp. to exceed dot 4 and 400deg. at the time of this mishap. Thanks!
Jason

 

I use Goodridge. Goodridge come with chaff guard installed on the SS lines. You are able to move the chaff guard and place it where you need it.

Just remember to make sure that your SS lines are not rubbing on anything. This is usually the cause of the lines failing like yours did.

If they are chaffing on anything, reposition them so they are not. Make sure you tug the lines back and fourth to see if they chaff on anything while you are going around turns or acceleratting.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WhiteRicer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use Goodridge. Goodridge come with chaff guard installed on the SS lines. You are able to move the chaff guard and place it where you need it.

Just remember to make sure that your SS lines are not rubbing on anything. This is usually the cause of the lines failing like yours did.

If they are chaffing on anything, reposition them so they are not. Make sure you tug the lines back and fourth to see if they chaff on anything while you are going around turns or acceleratting.

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have a friend turn the wheel from one lock to the other while you watch to see if it rubs on anything.

Purchasing such important componants off ebay may not have been a great idea. I have good experience with the Goodridge lines as well, but I dunno if their the best. I would prefer a coated line.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itellyawhat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK so I bought a set off stainless steal braided brake lines off of ebay a while back and 3 races ago they couldn't take the abuse of hpde and pretty much blew a whole in the left one and the right one was near same but the plastic coating was holding the fluid in. This caused me to all the sudden not have brakes in the middle of a run braking into turn 4 of VIR(car is fine). Anyways What is a good brand to buy? I was thinking about Russel. Also I used rbf 600 fluid and was using valvoline's fluid that supp. to exceed dot 4 and 400deg. at the time of this mishap. Thanks!
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i run russell's, and haven't had any problems with them

 

thanks guys!

 

I use the stock rubber brake lines. They work great and have plenty of attachment points to stay secure and out of the way of moving parts. Not to mention, I've never seen the high pressure fittings fail on a stock line like some people have reported with aftermarket parts . . .

 

I use Russel as well, no problems. I use the Valvoline brake fluid and don't have any problems with that either.

You do have to be real careful with routing the aftermarket lines, especially when putting on much wider tires for racing. My Integra used 195's stock and I had to make sure the lines cleared the 225's that I race on.

 

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Second that...

 

Goodridge here. Never had a problem. running OE fluid too.

 

Russel here as well, never had a single problem. Mine are routed exactly as stock and never rub anything.

 

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Does the braided SS lines really change the pedal feel then ? I can't see where the OEM lines would bind of dilate...

I used SS lines once, but I installed them as the same time as I did a severe brake upgrade...so I can't tell if they really make a difference in pedal feeling.

 

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Frankly, in my experience, no.

But I also don't notice a difference with other Placebo Effect items such as strut tower braces and aluminum lower control arms either.

 

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+1.the Russels are DOT approved-not sure what that's worth as far as their durability or reliability,but they seemed like the best choice to me.
i couldn't tell a difference going from the stock lines to the braided lines.i just replaced them as the stockers were looking pretty rough,and figured i'd see if these actually made a difference.

definitely don't cheap out on brake parts.

chris

 

i agree that the SS brake lines did not change the pedal feel

i'm also running Russel lines

 

Goodridge

 

The SS-braided lines are more of a pain than they're worth, IMO. First, they cost money, then you have to find a way to route them which doesn't rub on something (not as easy as with stock lines, and they can sometimes require readjustment), then you have to worry about dirt or small rocks getting under the braid and wearing a hole in the rubber line underneath.

I ran them on my turbo Integra, which had very high braking needs on the track. The pedal was a little firmer, but not by much at all (certainly not as much as some people claim). The car didn't stop any better with them; the only real improvement I found was that I could get a better feel for what was going on with the brakes... When a brake pad overheated and lost it's grip, my foot on the pedal was able to feel it grinding against the rotor. Maybe the improved feedback helped me with threshold braking, but it's hard to say if it really made enough of a difference to matter.

Most people who report a much firmer pedal, or better stopping power, with aftermarket lines are doing so because of the placebo effect and/or the fact that they now have freshly bled brake fluid.

I ended up selling my turbo Integra, and now I race a Porsche 944 with stock rubber lines... I can't say that I have any motivation to buy aftermarket lines for it. But then again, this car doesn't really need to brake much either... about half the power of my Integra, higher cornering speeds, and 11" rotors at all four corners.

 

don't mean to thread jack but iam indeed of new lines.people say russell,and bfgoodrich.is there any type of difference,maybe just price.on summit racing they are less than $100.once again don't mean to thread jack iam curious of the types of names.

 

stock rubber line's here