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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Any of you got the Buddy Club Short Shifter? If so how short are the throws? Big difference I am looking into one and curious about it. Thanks guys...
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Why do you think you need a short shifter? Search because we've been 'round and 'round about this before.

To sum it up: short shifter = pointless. Just get a shiftknob that sits lower on the oem shifter if you want the 'short throw' feeling.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you think you need a short shifter? Search because we've been 'round and 'round about this before.

To sum it up: short shifter = pointless. Just get a shiftknob that sits lower on the oem shifter if you want the 'short throw' feeling.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Sums it up right there and we did go round and round about this subject. I agree completely with Todd.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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The Buddy Club short throw shifter is a great upgrade. It tightens the overall movement of the shifter and add a low shift ****, you will be set. People will say that the short shifter will ruin synchronizers, but this will only happen if you shift the hell out of it (and the stock shifter will do the same thing). I love mine and wouldn't go back.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Here we go...
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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mine didnt really make the shifter shorter, but it did make the throws A LOT shorter. i'd say go for it, it makes a great upgrade and makes your shifts feel solid
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TruStylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it makes a great upgrade and makes your shifts feel solid</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a cable-operated shifting mechanism on the RSX/EP3. It is as solid as it gets; a short-shifter won't really help this.

Only thing a short-shifter will help you do is grind/miss gears and put it into gear too quickly.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Hey todd, you can only stress so much on how much worthless an SS is. Let them think that they shaved off 2-3 secs because of an SS. When they come around to snapping cables and/or ruining synchros and can't figure it out then post on H-T because they don't know why then you can just point and say "we told you so".
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Once over the "I'm faster with a SS" mentality, is a SS dangerous?

I know we had that 5 page topic before but I don't understand how a SS is going to mess with the synchros if you use the SS just for the feel. (Meaning you don't shift any faster, maybe even slower.) Almost everyone at the local track uses them and I asked a couple guys (including 2 RSX's) if it's harmful and they laugh. They say (and this is the same way I think of it), that the shifter is purely mechanical and will only affect the synchros if you try shifting faster because you have a SS. I had a high mileage Accord (also cable linkage) with a SS for 60,000 miles; no grinds.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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By track I assume you mean drag strip?

Because, in reality, a short-shifter does nothing for making a car faster. Do people really think that the action of their leg pushing in the clutch is faster than flicking a stock shifter a few inches?

If you look at actual track cars, their shifters are sometimes extended (with stock geometry in place). And many use the OEM shift lever. It's safe and the geometry is spot-on.

To get a firmer 'feel', replace the bushings.

As far as the RSX-S is concerned--the gears are already close enough as-is. Remember the vast amount of people who've done the famous 3-2 instead of 3-4?
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By track I assume you mean drag strip?

Because, in reality, a short-shifter does nothing for making a car faster. Do people really think that the action of their leg pushing in the clutch is faster than flicking a stock shifter a few inches?

If you look at actual track cars, their shifters are sometimes extended (with stock geometry in place). And many use the OEM shift lever. It's safe and the geometry is spot-on.

To get a firmer 'feel', replace the bushings.

As far as the RSX-S is concerned--the gears are already close enough as-is. Remember the vast amount of people who've done the famous 3-2 instead of 3-4?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Todd, I have NEVER and will NEVER argue that SS will make a car faster. I loved mine in my Accord because of the way it feels. Some cars have a long throw (my EG's hits the passenger seat!) and a SS is almost a must. I wouldn't waste the money on my EP because it's short enough with a Spoon shift ****.

If you shift normally (maybe a little slower) with a SS, does it affect the synchros in any way?
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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no
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Here we go is right! If you want to spend the money on a useless item go right ahead, everyone has their own opinion. Mine and most is that S/S=Pointless
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