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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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it tries to start but it seems like there is resistance or fatigue on the engine. and it backfires flames out of the intake manifold. what is wrong with my car?!??!?!
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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There is a zinging noise coming from either the tps sensor or the iac on the back of the intake manifold. and when i turn the key off it goes away. would could this mean
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Your going to have to give us more deatails. For starters, what motor is it? Is there anything done to it? Stock?? It is a swap? Did this just start happening?
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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just get a new swap.. they go for cheap
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Sounds like your timing is off for one.

spark plugs in the right order? Valves closing all the way.

Check timing and do a compression test
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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its a stock d15b7. no mods. i cant get it just to start. freekin A. i alligned all the marks and did the timing and it didnt start. so i tried over 10 ways of timing(pulled the timing belt and adjusted the cam and the crank) and it still wont start. it just shoots fireballs out of the throttle body, i havent even put a intake on it yet.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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wow... spitting fire from throttle body.... that something i never seen before...
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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ya your tellin me lol. so what does this mean??? i might just take it to a local shop and have them f.u.c.k with it. but i dont wanna do that unless i absoleutly have to
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Firing order is probably off.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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1-3-4-2 is correct correct me if im wrong
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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You sure your plug wires are in order?
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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ya i have them as 1342
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 03:57 AM
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Heres what your firing order should be. Check to make sure its right.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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check your dizzy rotor.. when i baught my crx with a b16 swap it wouldnt start. backfired in the throttle body.. turned out the dizzy was loose.. got the car w/ swap extremely cheap
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 04:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yoffer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres what your firing order should be. Check to make sure its right.
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Is the firing order the same for the non-VTEc D15B7 he has? I honetsly don't know. It's been so long since I've seen a D15B7, seriously.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is the firing order the same for the non-VTEc D15B7 he has? I honetsly don't know. It's been so long since I've seen a D15B7, seriously.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes 99% of most honda's follow this order there the flat part of the distributor is up and the round is bottom.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Not all Honda distributor shafts are indexed the same, your timing is off, set number one to TDC Compression stroke and make sure the rotor is pointing to #1 in the dizzy cap. I had one like yours and the rotor was busted loose from the dizzy shaft firing to the wrong plug.

The intake valve is open still receiving the air fuel mixture when the plug fires and flames travel back out the valve through the intake and throttle body.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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your motor could be blown, happen to a friend of mine took the head off and haha sure enough!
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killacam661 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it tries to start but it seems like there is resistance or fatigue on the engine. and it backfires flames out of the intake manifold. what is wrong with my car?!??!?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like your cam/valve timing is off. Check timing belt for skipped teeth. If not, the firing order is not correct.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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had a similar problem one time and there was water in the dizzy for some reason.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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ima check right now and its almost one in the morning. lol
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Duane_in_Japan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not all Honda distributor shafts are indexed the same, your timing is off, set number one to TDC Compression stroke and make sure the rotor is pointing to #1 in the dizzy cap. I had one like yours and the rotor was busted loose from the dizzy shaft firing to the wrong plug.

The intake valve is open still receiving the air fuel mixture when the plug fires and flames travel back out the valve through the intake and throttle body.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hope ur right with the sprak plug wires.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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F.U.C.k. yea i love u guys. i forgot about the difference betwwen the dohc and sohc dizzy wires. problem solved fellas. pat urselves on the back
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 03:53 AM
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Are you able to post pics and/or give great detail please.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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hallelujah H-T!
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