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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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I have a 1996 accord lx non vtec.. here's what's up.. i was going to change my plugs so i pulled out the plug wires and there appears to be a lot of oil in the middle two cylinders and only trace amounts in the end cylinders. Is this normal???

I hope this makes sense to you guys. I'm a camaro z28 guy and i work on my ls1 all the time. this is beyond me so i logged in looking for help. thanks guys


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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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thank you. will i need to remove the valve cover to replace the gaskets? also is it safe to drive in this condition? there is oil on top of the plugs which is probably not a good thing IMO..
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Jus get a valve cover gasket kit that includes tha o-rings for your sparkplugs then you'll b good
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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thank you sir!

I have another car to drive but is the car "safe" to drive in this condition? I drive this car to and from work and school and leave my camaro in the garage. Need to know if I can drive it to work in the am. thanks again!
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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I would change it soon...but if your gonna continue to drive it for now jus check your oil level constantly...
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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i will be changing it soon - like tomorrow soon - but definitely not tonight so that was my main concern. well i guess i'll take my chances tomorrow and see what happens.. fyi, i did take the plug wires out of the "cylinders" to let the oil drip off and settle in the cylinders so that when i put the wires back on, there wont be any oil in b/w the plug and the inside of the plug wire..

dont know if that makes a difference but what the hell
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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That exactly what you should do. I do that all the time because customers are too cheap to have it fixed. And yes it's safe to drive like that. How long have you been driving it?.. Exactly.. Worst case scenario, it'll cause a misfire.

Just remember to floor out all that oil after you pull it out of your garage because it might smoke a bit.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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mines been doing it since before the summer..

<<<--- too lazy to fix.

but shes going away for the winter, to be worked on yayy
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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those gaskets are under the valve cover it is an easy fix good luck


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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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well thanks a lot guys.. i'm just now heading over to vato zone to pick up the gaskets..
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Ok.. installed the gaskets. simple. there were 4 o-rings that i can't figure out where they go... the kit contained the valve cover gasket, the 4 gaskets that go inside the valve cover, 4 grommets, and 4 o-rings.. where do the thin o-rings go!??!


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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Look in the Accord FAQ, those may be the lower seals that require you to lift the rocker assembly. I haven't done those seals myself yet. But since they're so hard to get to, just leave it as-is (do the valve and top-o-bore seals) and check your spark plug bores in a week or so. If there's oil in them again, then take the dive and pray to christ you don't mess up something in your valvetrain ;P
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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yeah I can only hope at this point. thanks for your info man!
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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well it really depends on were the oil is on the sparkplug. If its on the end of the spark plug then its the rings on the piston. If its on the middle of the sparkplug then its the valve cover seal! good luck!!
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skUnK2jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it really depends on were the oil is on the sparkplug. If its on the end of the spark plug then its the rings on the piston. If its on the middle of the sparkplug then its the valve cover seal! good luck!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

That isn't necessarily true; well, I guess it is, but to be more specific, if the oil is only on the end of the spark plug and not actually on the threads or the insulator, then it is the rings.
You could have oil on the plug ends and still have the seals be bad - it's going to get down to the end of the spark plug by gravity and viscosity once enough builds up in the plug well.
Plus if his rings are bad, he'd be seeing some blue smoke too...
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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no smoke at all. i'll have to check the plugs again in a week or so and see if i still have a problem. thanks a lot guys
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Since I bought my car in 2002 with 83k miles. I have had oil in my #2 spark plug. First, I changed the valve cover gasket and seals myself. didn't solve the problem. I had honda change it 2 times after that and it still isn't solved. There are some lower that it might be, but that requires major work. my car still get stock gas mileage and it runs good, so I just don't worry about it. I now have 160k miles and don't see any problems yet.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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had this problem. i was doinga tune up so i fixed it. Just get a Valve cover gasket kit. In my car it was the lower seal in cylinder # 2 so we had to list the rocker arm assembly.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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yea i have this same problem but ive had it for like last year i replaced the valve cover gasket in june whent away for a while cheked it like last month was back again said owell checked plugs yesterday and no oil it comes and go's i plan on replacing the gasket again in the summer if it dosent go away but i got no smoke coming out of the tailpipe so it cant be hurting any thing rite?? lol
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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i asked this same question and i didin't get a word fo reply, bummer. but to the OP there are lower seals and that might be the issue, well most likely is the issue. MY 94 coupe does the same thing and Yes you can drive it like that. What would be nice is if i could find a faq with pics on how to replace the lower seals as i hear they require more patience
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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if your car is running cappy and is smoking alot you have a blown head gasket casue that happend to my friends car...
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kidcool1977 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i asked this same question and i didin't get a word fo reply, bummer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

psst... looks like you got more than just a word
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2162299

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kidcool1977 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would be nice is if i could find a faq with pics on how to replace the lower seals as i hear they require more patience</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahhhhhhhhhh... there is!! in the FAQ, just like I stated in your thread
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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totally off subject here for a sec..... honestly i initially thought i wouldn't get much good advice on this forum, for no particular reason, and i was dead wrong. I am a member of ls1tech and i post there all the time, trade parts, go 2 meets, and such. we get tons of help there and this forum seems to be equally good. I thank you guys a million for all the info. i'm kinda bummed to hear it's probably the lower seals but i'll check out the pics in the FAQ. thanks again!
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