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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Ok I have a coupe and some 4 point sparco harnesses with bride seats with momo sliders and mounts. Where or how do I mount the harnesses. I know someone on here has some pictures. Please post em.

I hope I don't have to have a bar behind the seats....If I do where is a good place to pic up a good one?

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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Bolt them to where the rear seat belt buckles would be.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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lap belts mount to the floor using eye hooks.

shoulders use the rear stock seatbelt holes. those also use eye hooks as well.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mormonboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lap belts mount to the floor using eye hooks.

shoulders use the rear stock seatbelt holes. those also use eye hooks as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Im not picturing the rear mounts. I have one mount on my rail and then of course the threaded hole on the door side and then one on the B Pillar.

I was thinking you might get them to the rear seat mount bolts but I don't like that idea to well.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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you know the lab belts for the rear passangers.

well if you unbolt the lapbelt/buckling thing for the rear passangers, you use an

eye hook in that hole (where the lapbelt/buckle thing was just removed)

and thats what you attatch your shoulder harness too.

or

get a harness bar n wrap your harness around that.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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Anyone with pics?
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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I'd strongly advise you to install a roll bar along with the harnesses.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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harnesses dont belong in a car without a rollbar.

period.

i dont care if you have a harness bar, its not the way they are designed to work. the "higher" end of safety doesnt work in pieces. you cant just add a bucket and harness. you need a rollbar.

the longer the strap the more stretch it has and the more likely injury is during an accident. thats why you want to avoid going to the rear tower or seatbelt holes and it should be wrapped around a bar connected to a rollbar.

rollbar, or no harness.

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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I have a Hatch and what I did was:

Remove the back seat and run the harnesses under the back seat


I have Torino 2 with rails.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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i think you need a harness bar cause it needs to be mounted straight back and not to the ground from what i've heard
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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I hope you never roll the car.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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harness bar or rollcage or dont do it. If you dont install and mount the harness correctly they can do more harm than good, its bad when your spine gets compressed because you were too lazy to do something right.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quicksilver1689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">harness bar or rollcage or dont do it. If you dont install and mount the harness correctly they can do more harm than good, its bad when your spine gets compressed because you were too lazy to do something right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok so lets buy a roll bar then.

Who has one?
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E.Honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ok so lets buy a roll bar then.

Who has one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.autopowerindustries.com/
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

http://www.autopowerindustries.com/</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks.. Would like to see some installs in a honda....preferably a coupe.

Any others?
Anyone?
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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http://www.kirkracing.com/
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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pics anyone?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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-look if you want harnesses you want to mount them to it.

-mount shoulder belts directly behind you level with your shoulders
-mount lap belts to stock locaton of oem lap belts
-5th point. make a bar mounting to both front seat bolt going from left to right and loop around that bar.

-harnesses should always be very snug/tight (not loose) this is the point of having them. being loose can cause whiplash and broken collar bones if not worse.

-and mount them correctly.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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here is my daily driver

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18MOBBER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is my daily driver</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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people who scare me

1. people with un-padded roll cages.
2. people with four point harnesses and no roll cages.

please leave your passenger a normal belt at least so they'll survive a roll over while your head is crushed.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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I don't understand the whole need for a harness on a dd if the cars not tracked or required to have one.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbustuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't understand the whole need for a harness on a dd if the cars not tracked or required to have one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

-well first you have 5 restraints (NOT 2)
-thats just like asking why dont we have noraml passenger car seat belts in racecars.

-most crashes in racecars are xpected when something goes wrong. there are more controlled conditions with run off and safe barriers.

-on the street you never know whos around you where the run off is and all the walls are concrete, trees, cliffs, other vehicles that are bigger.

-5 point is always better for safety you just lack comfort
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18MOBBER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-5 point is always better for safety you just lack comfort </TD></TR></TABLE>

You'll be lacking both safety and comfort if you roll the car over, the roof collapses because you have no roll protection, and your spine ends up several inches shorter as you're held upright in your seat. If you think you're "safer" with your 5-point harness connected only to a harness bar, you're gravely mistaken.
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