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injectors size / rc or precision? / gasoline-e85 all for my setup b16a2

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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hii,
(sory for possible not really good english, i'm french )

My first question is :
Precision are really more cheaper than RC injectors, but does rc are REALLY better than precision or this two brand are closed??

Second question :

my setup is : (for a EUDM B16A2)
-piston b16b
-cams brian crower stage2 bc0012 with full valve train bc0010s
-valves supertech FLAT black nitrited with supertech seals
-timing belt gates racing
-headstuds ARP
-head gasket stock
-bottom end modified with b18c6(integra type r eudm engine) block girdle
-ecu p30jdm with hondata s300j

I start i will be ine standar gasoline but in few month i planned to convert to E85 fuel.

So if possible i would like to buy just one kit of injector, not too big for gasoline, but not too little for E85.

So, what do you think i must take in size???

Some guys tell me 440cc.

maybe the best choice is to take 440cc but reduce fuel pressure for gasoline and increase pressure for E85 (fo simulate more little/bigger injectors) what do you think about this?

or maybe 400cc??

Another question, what is the difference between technologye "ball and seat" and "disc"?
What is the best?

Last question, how much horsepower do you think i can have with all this?
Thank you very much for your responses.

Alain
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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1000cc is the way to go now days.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 04:01 AM
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Default Re: injectors size / rc or precision? / gasoline-e85 all for my setup b16a2 (SilverStreak02)

Okay i'm not an expert in injection fuel but i'm not an idiot too.
So please don't "joke" i want a real response and your "1000cc" is really.............

Well, who can really respond to my questions?

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Maybe for a 500WHP civic.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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big up!!
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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I would say that 440cc's will do just fine.

1000 is great if you are looking for 6-700+whp.

As for quality between RC and Precision Im not sure, but I do know that Precision's are cheaper.

440cc FTW
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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hey 95project, i planned to have 190/215hp at crank
19/200 for standar gasoline
200/215 for E85 fuel.

i don't planned to put a turbo
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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440 should be fine.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Thanks 95project your response is what i think

Another advice all ??
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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If your only looking for 200hp then i would go with 310. If your looking after 250hp then set up to 440s.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Luserkid, if i was planned to be always in gasoline, 310cc would be fine but the problem is i planned to run with E85 fuel and for this we must inject between 30 and 60% more as i read.

It is for this reason if possible i want injector not TOO bigger for gasoline but with sufficient flow for the E85.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Yes i understand that. I still say for 200whp i would stick with 310 injectors. I have seen 240cc make it to the 200 mark, given they were maxed out. If you want the extra cc's incase you want to go for more power later on by all means go for it.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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310 would be fine cause then your fuel pressure will be at 35+. better for fuel atomization. if you run the 440s with your set-up, fuel pressure will be low
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