SCAMMER!! DO NOT BUY FROM TONY KIM!!
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Has TONY KIM/SPEEDCONCEPT scammed you??
SpeedConept's TONY KIM sold the follwing car under the guise of being a "Perfect Car with NO PROBLEMS"...
So I send my customer/buddy over to checkout this car out thats on CL. I tell him to do nothing but see if it's even worth my time to come check it out.
Ends up it was being sold by Tony of SpeedConcept infamy. If I knew speedconcept had anything to do with it, I would have surely advised against buying the car. Some of you might remember the bullshit this guy pulled in Washington.
So my buddy goes over there, and I tell him not to buy **** without me, but after some high-pressure sales speal about all the interested buyers, and how he has to buy it right there or he'll miss out on a "great deal", he does (so not much sympathy there lol).
On the way back the fucken steering wheel slips so its waaaay off, by like 90 degrees.
And then oneheadlight goes out still 20 miles from his house.
And then the axle starts clicking lol, which he should have heard during test drive but whatever right, that's not the point here right.
And then still before he gets home, the I-Shaft support bracket starts banging off the back of the block. What they couldn't even throw one fucken 14 in there to hold it in place wtf??
Then I come back to town to get this lemon *** hatch going and BOTH headlights are out of order and the car that was supposed to be a "great deal" is not even drivable due to the I-shaft and headlight issues.
Then I noticed that the Drivers side caliper is just floating by the bottom bolt as the upper bolt and sleeve have gone MIA!!
The Fucken rotor had only one HALF way screwed in screw, not that it really matters but wtf SpeedConcept?? The screws cost us only $1.30 at Honda.
Then we find out she's a leaker. The rear hatch compartment has water in it after we left it parked outside for an hour or two outside.
Upon opening of the P30, I discovered that the chip was fucked up on one of the prongs, and is in need of replacment. The soldering on the socket looks amatuer at best. So now we have to burn a new map on a new atmel, and clean up the soldering on the socket, which should be done by the time you are reading this.
Oh, now she's throwing a CEL code #9, so I'm assuming the dizzy is ****.
And a host of other probs have surfaced as well.
Okay, so granted, I would not have bought the car. But I buy/sell cars all the time. This guy is a total noob, just the kinda buyer this TONY KIM was looking for.
And again, this thread is NOT about a noob buying a car. This thread IS about the lowdown dirty sale of a car with MAJOR problems, that was sold through a fucken Import Shop, that specializes in Honda's.
So if this guy really didn't know about the problems (he surely didn't mention the driveshaft, and there was a bolt slipped into the I-shaft support bracket for the test drive) it still is not acceptable by any stretch of the imagination. And if he will sell a car like this, without knowing about or neglecting to mention the problems, image what else he is capable of.
How he has managed to stay in business, as shitty and messy, is a tribute to the hordes of idiots, straight ricers, and just gullables out there.
I am sure the few of you tards on here that associate with SPEEDCONCEPT in Portland will have some bullshit to say, like we told you there was this or that problem... however, as I was in contact with him throughout the whole transaction, I know there was nothing said other than how great a deal this was.
There is NOTHING OK about selling a car with this many MAJOR problems when you RUN A FUCKEN SPEED SHOP.
Good thing is, the kid is filthy fucken rich, and his dad is an attorney. And I have gone over everything with him, and have documented everything. And he IS PISSED.
We have pics of EVERYTHING and even some video. I will get around to posting the pics up sooner or later, for now.. Just be aware of speed concept and they're shady asses.
For the record, the tranny IS mint, shifts like butter. And not a drop of smoke from the block. Very quiet valvtrain. Wiring for the A2 is not exactly clean or loomed up , but not any worse than your average shady, low-end spedshop swap would do. Also, the paint is is not too bad for a macco tweeker job.
-Peace
MODS please do leave this up so that maybe someone else can avoid having to go through the same ordeal my guy has had to endure.
Modified by turbogirl84 at 4:10 PM 11/10/2007
Modified by turbogirl84 at 9:27 PM 11/13/2007
So I send my customer/buddy over to checkout this car out thats on CL. I tell him to do nothing but see if it's even worth my time to come check it out.
Ends up it was being sold by Tony of SpeedConcept infamy. If I knew speedconcept had anything to do with it, I would have surely advised against buying the car. Some of you might remember the bullshit this guy pulled in Washington.
So my buddy goes over there, and I tell him not to buy **** without me, but after some high-pressure sales speal about all the interested buyers, and how he has to buy it right there or he'll miss out on a "great deal", he does (so not much sympathy there lol).
On the way back the fucken steering wheel slips so its waaaay off, by like 90 degrees.
And then oneheadlight goes out still 20 miles from his house.
And then the axle starts clicking lol, which he should have heard during test drive but whatever right, that's not the point here right.
And then still before he gets home, the I-Shaft support bracket starts banging off the back of the block. What they couldn't even throw one fucken 14 in there to hold it in place wtf??
Then I come back to town to get this lemon *** hatch going and BOTH headlights are out of order and the car that was supposed to be a "great deal" is not even drivable due to the I-shaft and headlight issues.
Then I noticed that the Drivers side caliper is just floating by the bottom bolt as the upper bolt and sleeve have gone MIA!!
The Fucken rotor had only one HALF way screwed in screw, not that it really matters but wtf SpeedConcept?? The screws cost us only $1.30 at Honda.
Then we find out she's a leaker. The rear hatch compartment has water in it after we left it parked outside for an hour or two outside.
Upon opening of the P30, I discovered that the chip was fucked up on one of the prongs, and is in need of replacment. The soldering on the socket looks amatuer at best. So now we have to burn a new map on a new atmel, and clean up the soldering on the socket, which should be done by the time you are reading this.
Oh, now she's throwing a CEL code #9, so I'm assuming the dizzy is ****.
And a host of other probs have surfaced as well.
Okay, so granted, I would not have bought the car. But I buy/sell cars all the time. This guy is a total noob, just the kinda buyer this TONY KIM was looking for.
And again, this thread is NOT about a noob buying a car. This thread IS about the lowdown dirty sale of a car with MAJOR problems, that was sold through a fucken Import Shop, that specializes in Honda's.
So if this guy really didn't know about the problems (he surely didn't mention the driveshaft, and there was a bolt slipped into the I-shaft support bracket for the test drive) it still is not acceptable by any stretch of the imagination. And if he will sell a car like this, without knowing about or neglecting to mention the problems, image what else he is capable of.
How he has managed to stay in business, as shitty and messy, is a tribute to the hordes of idiots, straight ricers, and just gullables out there.
I am sure the few of you tards on here that associate with SPEEDCONCEPT in Portland will have some bullshit to say, like we told you there was this or that problem... however, as I was in contact with him throughout the whole transaction, I know there was nothing said other than how great a deal this was.
There is NOTHING OK about selling a car with this many MAJOR problems when you RUN A FUCKEN SPEED SHOP.
Good thing is, the kid is filthy fucken rich, and his dad is an attorney. And I have gone over everything with him, and have documented everything. And he IS PISSED.
We have pics of EVERYTHING and even some video. I will get around to posting the pics up sooner or later, for now.. Just be aware of speed concept and they're shady asses.
For the record, the tranny IS mint, shifts like butter. And not a drop of smoke from the block. Very quiet valvtrain. Wiring for the A2 is not exactly clean or loomed up , but not any worse than your average shady, low-end spedshop swap would do. Also, the paint is is not too bad for a macco tweeker job.
-Peace
MODS please do leave this up so that maybe someone else can avoid having to go through the same ordeal my guy has had to endure.
Modified by turbogirl84 at 4:10 PM 11/10/2007
Modified by turbogirl84 at 9:27 PM 11/13/2007
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Re: SCAMMER!! TONY KIM SPEEDCONCEPT (turbogirl84)
I used to buy from them because I thought Tony was so nice and always gave me deals when I came in, however, I noticed a common trend whenever I came out from there: the parts I bought never fit right or had something wrong with them. I bought a CTR replica wing for a 96-00 Civic hatch and Tony said it fit perfectly... He gave me the usual sayings like i'm sure you all are accustomed to which is, "I'll give you special deal!" so why not? $50? I took it because they normally cost like $90 or so on ebay so why not... Then I bought an ABS Type- R Style front lip for my Dad's 94 Integra DD and one side of the lip is cracked... Tony didn't do sh*t about it and instead says, "no refunds on special deals". I also bought something there once and it didn't fit... ALl I wanted was my money back and he kept trying to hustle me to buy something when I didn't need anything. I wasted a lot of time looking around and I got sick of it so i'm like "Can I just get my money back, please?" ANd so I got it after nearly a month of beating around the busy of him saying "May be the part will fit.. blah blah." Nice guy, and if someone does know more about his scams or the news about him in Washington please post. 
I'm sorry for your loss, and to scammers. I will give Speed Concept Credit though of good deals for SOME parts and window tinting though.
I'm sorry for your loss, and
to scammers. I will give Speed Concept Credit though of good deals for SOME parts and window tinting though.
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Re: SCAMMER!! TONY KIM SPEEDCONCEPT (turbogirl84)
Original thread deleted?
Anyhoo, I'd like to reiterate my experience with Speed Concepts in order to try to alleviate the possibility of someone else getting ripped off.
I lived in the greater PDX are a few years ago, at the time I was working FT and attending school FT while living out of a small apartment with no garage or tools.
I usually work in my own cars but at this time I did not have the time/resources so I took my civic to Speed Concepts for a clutch swap.
The mechanic informed me that my axle boot was ripped and he could replace the entire axle with a newer one for just a little more than the price of the boot.
I agreed and made payment in full.
When picked up my car it broke down in PDX (few miles away), the axle had popped out. I called Speed Concepts and spoke with Tony, I informed him that I would have the car pulled to a nearby garage and have it looked it. He was in agreement with plan. Upon inspection, a random mechanic at a random shop confirmed that the axle splines were damaged along with the transmission. Apparently the mechanic had "forced" the axle in.
Tony had his mechanic contact me who denied any wrong doing and refused to repair the damages.
I contacted the BBB and took my car to another shop to verify damages.
After numeorus phone calls Tony finally sent his mechanic out to look at my car. I showed the mechanic the 2 invoices I recieved quoting damages. The mechanic than blamed the damage on a faulty axle stating it was the wrong part. I reminded him that Speed Concepts provided the axle themselves.
He than said he would forward this info to Tony.
Tony never returned my calls after this.
I had a used transmisson put in along with an axle, I left a few messages asking Tony to reimburse me of the cost of repairs to no avail.
Shortly after I moved suddenly due to family issues so I did not pursue this in small claims.
While Tony was extremely friendly while making the sale, his inability to provide honest service shows his lack of morale and ethics.
Tony has a huge inventory with plenty of online sales. He has low prices due to his buying power. He takes advantage of locals and doesn't worry about repeat sales because his online sales are so tremendous.
If you have had a poor transaction through this store, you should contact the BBB.
https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/pub....aspx
It only takes minutes to submit a complaint.
Anyhoo, I'd like to reiterate my experience with Speed Concepts in order to try to alleviate the possibility of someone else getting ripped off.
I lived in the greater PDX are a few years ago, at the time I was working FT and attending school FT while living out of a small apartment with no garage or tools.
I usually work in my own cars but at this time I did not have the time/resources so I took my civic to Speed Concepts for a clutch swap.
The mechanic informed me that my axle boot was ripped and he could replace the entire axle with a newer one for just a little more than the price of the boot.
I agreed and made payment in full.
When picked up my car it broke down in PDX (few miles away), the axle had popped out. I called Speed Concepts and spoke with Tony, I informed him that I would have the car pulled to a nearby garage and have it looked it. He was in agreement with plan. Upon inspection, a random mechanic at a random shop confirmed that the axle splines were damaged along with the transmission. Apparently the mechanic had "forced" the axle in.
Tony had his mechanic contact me who denied any wrong doing and refused to repair the damages.
I contacted the BBB and took my car to another shop to verify damages.
After numeorus phone calls Tony finally sent his mechanic out to look at my car. I showed the mechanic the 2 invoices I recieved quoting damages. The mechanic than blamed the damage on a faulty axle stating it was the wrong part. I reminded him that Speed Concepts provided the axle themselves.
He than said he would forward this info to Tony.
Tony never returned my calls after this.
I had a used transmisson put in along with an axle, I left a few messages asking Tony to reimburse me of the cost of repairs to no avail.
Shortly after I moved suddenly due to family issues so I did not pursue this in small claims.
While Tony was extremely friendly while making the sale, his inability to provide honest service shows his lack of morale and ethics.
Tony has a huge inventory with plenty of online sales. He has low prices due to his buying power. He takes advantage of locals and doesn't worry about repeat sales because his online sales are so tremendous.
If you have had a poor transaction through this store, you should contact the BBB.
https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/pub....aspx
It only takes minutes to submit a complaint.
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Re: SCAMMER!! TONY KIM SPEEDCONCEPT (angrychicken)
Hmmm why was the original deleted......to the mod that deleted please can you inform us why? It seemed to me that it was more of a buyer beware issue which is very informational to ppl that might not know considering alot of other ppl had similar issues with this person/business
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Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old timer
It was because "TurboGirl" called the SpeedConcept **** who tried defending him, "PoleSmokers" and remarked that they all must "service" mister Kim in back of his bathroom there at teh shop, and that's why they were defending them.
It's all good. It was getting off topic anyways, idiots were like the rotor scerws dont really matter.. Like that's the point lol. And I clearly say in there that "{the screws} don't really matter".
It appears there is more than enough liabilty/responsibility on his part to warrant a visit from the local IRS agent.. As well as an inspector for the Oregon Auto Dealers Association. Being, as he has sold more than a few cars out of that dingy, dirty, sleezy, jackershack of "shop".
So this thread should be up for a while.. Ladies and Gents, kick back and watch the show...
It's all good. It was getting off topic anyways, idiots were like the rotor scerws dont really matter.. Like that's the point lol. And I clearly say in there that "{the screws} don't really matter".
It appears there is more than enough liabilty/responsibility on his part to warrant a visit from the local IRS agent.. As well as an inspector for the Oregon Auto Dealers Association. Being, as he has sold more than a few cars out of that dingy, dirty, sleezy, jackershack of "shop".
So this thread should be up for a while.. Ladies and Gents, kick back and watch the show...
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
Did you test drive the car before buying? Did you have a mechanic look at it before you bought it? Don't get me wrong, Speed Concept does do some questionable work, but in the end YOU can always say NO. All I can say is TOUGH BREAK 
We live in a world where scammers rule and in the end you have the choice to say no.
We live in a world where scammers rule and in the end you have the choice to say no.
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Universal Magnetic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you test drive the car before buying? Did you have a mechanic look at it before you bought it? Don't get me wrong, Speed Concept does do some questionable work, but in the end YOU can always say NO. All I can say is TOUGH BREAK
We live in a world where scammers rule and in the end you have the choice to say no. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Definitely.
We live in a world where scammers rule and in the end you have the choice to say no. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Definitely.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brisauce »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Definitely. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay, you guys really have a hard time getting this. maybe you should quit huffing gas on the back of the short bus.. and pay attention.
This thread is NOT about how there are alot of dumbass kids running around with a buncha money, buying shitty hatches.
This hatch was clean as expletive, the block doesnt smoke a drop, the tranny is butter, and the webs are decent. How many buyers seriously have a tech checker out??
It goes without saying, and I clearly covered this point, buyers should beware. But how the hell you get off saying that just cause we live in a world of jackers, that its your "fault" for trusting a ******* "SHOP-OWNER" when he says something is good. One could assume that they would not want to have bad business right??
So this thread is going to be re-titled..
Has TONY KIM/SPEEDCONCEPT scammed you???
Definitely. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay, you guys really have a hard time getting this. maybe you should quit huffing gas on the back of the short bus.. and pay attention.
This thread is NOT about how there are alot of dumbass kids running around with a buncha money, buying shitty hatches.
This hatch was clean as expletive, the block doesnt smoke a drop, the tranny is butter, and the webs are decent. How many buyers seriously have a tech checker out??
It goes without saying, and I clearly covered this point, buyers should beware. But how the hell you get off saying that just cause we live in a world of jackers, that its your "fault" for trusting a ******* "SHOP-OWNER" when he says something is good. One could assume that they would not want to have bad business right??
So this thread is going to be re-titled..
Has TONY KIM/SPEEDCONCEPT scammed you???
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i gotta agree with Universal Magnetic, not trying to cause drama-tech on you but bottom line is was your choice, and if he did lie about the car or failed to disclose information of the car does make him a shady person
and if you did have a tech check it out, wouldn't it have saved you alot of trouble?
there is a thin line between being shady and a scammer but you took the risk of buying that car and it does sucks to hear that there's alot of things wrong with it, and i really hope you end up working something out with the guy (if he is a stand up guy)
and if you did have a tech check it out, wouldn't it have saved you alot of trouble?
there is a thin line between being shady and a scammer but you took the risk of buying that car and it does sucks to hear that there's alot of things wrong with it, and i really hope you end up working something out with the guy (if he is a stand up guy)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogirl84 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Okay, you guys really have a hard time getting this. maybe you should quit huffing gas on the back of the short bus.. and pay attention.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It sounds like your friend is the one huffing gas and buying .fucked up cars without letting a friend or a mechanic give you a second opinion. Do us all a favor turbogirl84 and friends, get out of the honda scene and buy a scion XB. The XB closely resembles the shortbus you guys huff gas in
<U>Cliff Notes</U>
1. Don't buy car without getting a vehicle inspection by a mechanic.
2. If you yourself find stuff wrong the car on the test drive, don't buy it.
3. Don't let your friend post about your scammer experience, you post it!!
Okay, you guys really have a hard time getting this. maybe you should quit huffing gas on the back of the short bus.. and pay attention.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It sounds like your friend is the one huffing gas and buying .fucked up cars without letting a friend or a mechanic give you a second opinion. Do us all a favor turbogirl84 and friends, get out of the honda scene and buy a scion XB. The XB closely resembles the shortbus you guys huff gas in
<U>Cliff Notes</U>
1. Don't buy car without getting a vehicle inspection by a mechanic.
2. If you yourself find stuff wrong the car on the test drive, don't buy it.
3. Don't let your friend post about your scammer experience, you post it!!
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Re: (Universal Magnetic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Universal Magnetic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It sounds like your friend is the one huffing gas and buying .fucked up cars without letting a friend or a mechanic give you a second opinion. Do us all a favor turbogirl84 and friends, get out of the honda scene and buy a scion XB. The XB closely resembles the shortbus you guys huff gas in
<U>Cliff Notes</U>
1. Don't buy car without getting a vehicle inspection by a mechanic.
2. If you yourself find stuff wrong the car on the test drive, don't buy it.
3. Don't let your friend post about your scammer experience, you post it!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Words to live by! Scion XB is the rite car for you!
It sounds like your friend is the one huffing gas and buying .fucked up cars without letting a friend or a mechanic give you a second opinion. Do us all a favor turbogirl84 and friends, get out of the honda scene and buy a scion XB. The XB closely resembles the shortbus you guys huff gas in
<U>Cliff Notes</U>
1. Don't buy car without getting a vehicle inspection by a mechanic.
2. If you yourself find stuff wrong the car on the test drive, don't buy it.
3. Don't let your friend post about your scammer experience, you post it!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Words to live by! Scion XB is the rite car for you!
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Universal Magnetic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you test drive the car before buying? Did you have a mechanic look at it before you bought it? Don't get me wrong, Speed Concept does do some questionable work, but in the end YOU can always say NO. All I can say is TOUGH BREAK
We live in a world where scammers rule and in the end you have the choice to say no. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with the above statement 100%. It was your friends fault for not inspecting the car better before purchasing it.
On the other hand, I completely appreciate you posting your story. In selling and purchasing parts I have dealt with many different kinds of people. It is always nice to have a heads up if there is someone out there who is not completely trustworthy, so I can steer clear of them, especially when the reasons to not trust the person are well presented (there is a lot of trash talking on forums).
I think it is understood that every time someone gets scammed it is at least partially their fault, but that doesn't mean they shouldnt post their experiences to warn other people to be more careful.
We live in a world where scammers rule and in the end you have the choice to say no. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with the above statement 100%. It was your friends fault for not inspecting the car better before purchasing it.
On the other hand, I completely appreciate you posting your story. In selling and purchasing parts I have dealt with many different kinds of people. It is always nice to have a heads up if there is someone out there who is not completely trustworthy, so I can steer clear of them, especially when the reasons to not trust the person are well presented (there is a lot of trash talking on forums).
I think it is understood that every time someone gets scammed it is at least partially their fault, but that doesn't mean they shouldnt post their experiences to warn other people to be more careful.
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
wow, who would of thought!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Universal Magnetic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
<U>Cliff Notes</U>
1. Don't buy car without getting a vehicle inspection by a mechanic.
2. If you yourself find stuff wrong the car on the test drive, don't buy it.
3. Don't let your friend post about your scammer experience, you post it!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>
so true...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Universal Magnetic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
<U>Cliff Notes</U>
1. Don't buy car without getting a vehicle inspection by a mechanic.
2. If you yourself find stuff wrong the car on the test drive, don't buy it.
3. Don't let your friend post about your scammer experience, you post it!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>
so true...
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MatHadder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I agree with the above statement 100%. It was your friends fault for not inspecting the car better before purchasing it.
I think it is understood that every time someone gets scammed it is at least partially their fault, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't post their experiences to warn other people to be more careful.
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I agree.
A buyer has to assume some responsibility, especially with used parts or cars.
I'm not saying turbogirl or her friends are naive or ignorant, but she/they may have made a poor choice.
However, if someone lacks knowledge or experience in a certain area, does it mean they should be taken advantage of?
No, it's unethical.
They are plenty of people out there who are willing to take advantage of others for self gain (there are definitions for those personality types).
Turbogirl may not have been the most tactful or articulate in her wording, but her post might save someone from getting ripped off.
I agree with the above statement 100%. It was your friends fault for not inspecting the car better before purchasing it.
I think it is understood that every time someone gets scammed it is at least partially their fault, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't post their experiences to warn other people to be more careful.
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I agree.
A buyer has to assume some responsibility, especially with used parts or cars.
I'm not saying turbogirl or her friends are naive or ignorant, but she/they may have made a poor choice.
However, if someone lacks knowledge or experience in a certain area, does it mean they should be taken advantage of?
No, it's unethical.
They are plenty of people out there who are willing to take advantage of others for self gain (there are definitions for those personality types).
Turbogirl may not have been the most tactful or articulate in her wording, but her post might save someone from getting ripped off.
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
she did also mention her friend was under pressure on buying the car from the shop. By tell her/him that if they don't buy it well sell soon(er). I don't know about you guys but have you ever been put in that situation, where you are pressured on buying something...we most have...it all depends on how you handle the situation. So i understand what her friend went through, but she/he could of pick'd up all those noticable things wrong with the car....poor judgement happend here!
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
I just remembered.. I think I was there at the shop when your friend was buying the car... I remember someone looking at a hatch when I was inside trying to get my REFUND because Tony kept telling me to look around and see if I like something trying to hustle me. Tony doesn't know that I have hook ups as well so I sually get better deals than in his store but he usually gets the best prices on most greddy parts. I remember hearing someone call someone on their cell phone saying the hatch was nice or something and to buy it. Man... Tony Kim is a hustler.
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
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crazy and i bought TAKATA's from him/them! whent smooth but who would of thoguht!
crazy and i bought TAKATA's from him/them! whent smooth but who would of thoguht!
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Re: Thread edited.. Sorry for the explatives mister Knighton <--I got some respect for that old t
FWIW, although it took a while, Speedconcept went through a lot of trouble to order a set of cetnercaps for my Rays wheels from Japan (rare set of wheels). When they arrived, they happened to be the wrong ones (not their fault, centercaps were discontined; long story), but they did hold up their end of the deal for me, which I respect.
I bought a lip from them for my Civic, and when I got it home, it wasn't the style I wanted. They offered me store credit, which was fine, since I believe it said thier return policy on the recipt.
Finally, I bought a set of coilovers for my Yaris from them. They arrived when they said they would, and they were cheaper than Internet retailers.
I've had no problems with Speed Concept.
When you're buying anything from just about anybody just remember: buyer beware.
I bought a lip from them for my Civic, and when I got it home, it wasn't the style I wanted. They offered me store credit, which was fine, since I believe it said thier return policy on the recipt.
Finally, I bought a set of coilovers for my Yaris from them. They arrived when they said they would, and they were cheaper than Internet retailers.
I've had no problems with Speed Concept.
When you're buying anything from just about anybody just remember: buyer beware.
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