Hey guys and gals, I'm new here so bear with me.

I just burnt my clutch out really bad, so I was going to buy my friend's 97 cx for parts and swap in the engine (d16y7) and tranny. I know the engine swap is possible through lots of research here and on many other forums. First question is, will the transmissions swap? Second, what else (if anything) will I need for this swap? Will I need a obd2 to obd1 jumper? Anything else?

Thank you for your time.

 

The clutch is inter-changeable, if you are that tight for cash, Just change the clutch out of the 95 CX for the 97 CX. a Y7 swap is not worth any kinda of gain, just swap the transmissions.

 

Thanks for the insight.

One other thing I was doing the swap for was because since I got my car over a year ago, it has been burning oil. If I swap the engines, do I need the jumper?

Edit: plus, I'm getting his whole car for $300, I'd be using what I need to and selling the rest... probably here. Seats and such.

 

actually the car will be much quicker with the d16y7 then any 92-95 Cx d15b8 the eg Cx's are like 80 hp, just go ahead and use the 97 engine/clutch/tranny it will bolt in fine,however you will need to use a 92-95 engine harness/distributor/alternator and you would be better off finding A 92-95 d15b7 intake or d16z6 intake with the injectors and throttle body and use those instead of the 95 cx stuff and also get a 92-95 p06 5spd ecu (the intake can be from an auto) and that is all you need

 

Thank you again! You guys are really helpful. You're giving me hope. Haha!

Would I be able to use my current (stock) CX intake? How about the stock ecu?

 

please don't kill me for the *bump*

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMCIVICHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the car will be much quicker with the d16y7 then any 92-95 Cx d15b8 the eg Cx's are like 80 hp, just go ahead and use the 97 engine/clutch/tranny it will bolt in fine,however you will need to use a 92-95 engine harness/distributor/alternator and you would be better off finding A 92-95 d15b7 intake or d16z6 intake with the injectors and throttle body and use those instead of the 95 cx stuff and also get a 92-95 p06 5spd ecu (the intake can be from an auto) and that is all you need</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bullshit you will, the CX generates 92tq at 2800 RPM, they will both still be slow as hell.

Whats WRONG with the 96 civic?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GDMarin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank you again! You guys are really helpful. You're giving me hope. Haha!

Would I be able to use my current (stock) CX intake? How about the stock ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, CX Intake and TB are MUCH MUCH smaller than anything else stock, Its the size of my Lawnmowers TB.

the ECU will not be able to deal with the D16Y7 either, there is ALOT involved because you would also be going from OBD1 to OBD2, so you'd need to get an adapter for OBD1 to OBD2 as well as a chipped ECU *Both of which cost $100+ each

 

Like I said, I burnt the clutch out, thats whats wrong with the car. And it is a 95, not 96.

I think from what I'm hearing I'm just going to buy a brand new clutch, everything else seems way too high in cost for a the shape this car is in.

Anyone have a figure on how much I could expect to pay for a new clutch? Sorry, but I don't yet know what part of the clutch is fouled up.

 

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No, CX Intake and TB are MUCH MUCH smaller than anything else stock, Its the size of my Lawnmowers TB.

the ECU will not be able to deal with the D16Y7 either, there is ALOT involved because you would also be going from OBD1 to OBD2, so you'd need to get an adapter for OBD1 to OBD2 as well as a chipped ECU *Both of which cost $100+ each
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dude you are a tool spewing misinformation he wouldn't be converting to obd2 and he doesn't need a jumper harness or chipped ecu an obd1 p06 will be fine. I have put more then one y7 into a 92-95 and yes it is easy and yes it will feel much quicker then the b8 and if he really wants to he can use the old cx intake and p05 but it will run better with the b7 intake and po6

 

"Like I said, I burnt the clutch out, thats whats wrong with the car. And it is a 95, not 96."

I meant the car you were getting for $300, what was wrong with that car?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMCIVICHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude you are a tool spewing misinformation he wouldn't be converting to obd2 and he doesn't need a jumper harness or chipped ecu an obd1 p06 will be fine. I have put more then one y7 into a 92-95 and yes it is easy and yes it will feel much quicker then the b8 and if he really wants to he can use the old cx intake and p05 but it will run better with the b7 intake and po6</TD></TR></TABLE>

An OBD1 P06 would work, but he has to buy it, or get his p05 chipped, the P05 will NOT run that motor, or will blow it up as the CX is only an 8 valve engine.

Yes he has to convert to OBD2, or he will have to change over everything (Dizzy, Map, etc etc)

And No, the B8 intake will not fit, it is substantially smaller than a B7/Y7 intake plumbing AND the Y7 has a Vertical TB, so it wouldn't work anyways as its positioned completely diffrently.

Reffer to my Mini-Me Buildup thread and you will see what needs to get changed over to keep it OBD1.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2147115

I apologize to the OP, but I litereally JUST finished attaching a Y8 head to my B8 block so what I say is NOT misinformation its what I just completed. My write up explains what needs to be changed over to make the OBD2 head work with OBD1 wiring and electronics

To the guy above me " YES he can use the B8 INTAKE MANIFOLD, I thought you were reffering to Intake plumbing, it wasn't specified.


Modified by Dasfinc at 8:27 AM 11/11/2007

 

why dont u use the harness and comp out of th car ur buying for 300??

 

Yes he has to convert to OBD2, or he will have to change over everything (Dizzy, Map, etc etc)


WHAT? no he doesn't he will be converting the motor to Obd1 and a damn DX complete intake manifold and ecu will be 99% of it, swap the alternator and distributor from his old motor and it's done

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onefine99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont u use the harness and comp out of th car ur buying for 300??</TD></TR></TABLE>


because it is obd2a and won't work

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMCIVICHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes he has to convert to OBD2, or he will have to change over everything (Dizzy, Map, etc etc)


WHAT? no he doesn't he will be converting the motor to Obd1 and a damn DX complete intake manifold and ecu will be 99% of it, swap the alternator and distributor from his old motor and it's done</TD></TR></TABLE>

the CX manifold is SMALLER than the DX/LX manifolds, its smaller than my LawnMowers. And the CX ECU controls an 8 valve motor, not a 16 valve, the ECU will NOT work correctly, its programmed for HALF the air intake from only having 8 valves.

 

The only thing wrong with the 97 CX I could buy for $300 is that it is totaled in the back, everything under the hood is fine. I should be able to part a lot of it.

 

you
Yes he has to convert to OBD2, or he will have to change over everything (Dizzy, Map, etc etc)
me
WHAT? no he doesn't he will be converting the motor to Obd1 and a damn DX complete intake manifold and ecu will be 99% of it, swap the alternator and distributor from his old motor and it's done
you
the CX manifold is SMALLER than the DX/LX manifolds, its smaller than my LawnMowers. And the CX ECU controls an 8 valve motor, not a 16 valve, the ECU will NOT work correctly, its programmed for HALF the air intake from only having 8 valves.

I already said that, you were talking about conversion harnesses and chipped ecu's and converting to obd2 none of which is needed so I was trying to help him and corrected you by telling him the way it has to be done so.....

 

The 97 CX is totaled in the back (rear axle, etc). Everything under the hood is perfect. GDMarin would be getting everything out of the car (motor, trans, clutch, ECU ... everything).

What more would he need to buy if he was swapping everything that already works in the 97 CX into his 95 CX?

 

The 97 CX is totaled in the back (rear axle, etc). Everything under the hood is perfect. GDMarin would be getting everything out of the car (motor, trans, clutch, ECU ... everything).

What more would he need to buy if he was swapping everything that already works in the 97 CX into his 95 CX?

 

how many more times do I have to explain it? maybe someone else who HAS done the swap and isn't just talking out of their *** can confirm? so you guys can believe it is that EASY!!!

 

Sorry if I'm coming off as stubborn, the only reason is because I lost my job and am trying to do this as cost efficiently as possible. It is kind of hard to get a new job with out a car where I live.

It would only make sense that I could use the ECU from the 97 CX, right? Or am I missing something here?


Modified by GDMarin at 9:46 AM 11/14/2007

 

Bump....

Any word, folks? It's a simple question and though I'm already sure of the answer, I'd just like to hear someone back it up. Thanks.

 

I guess nobody can back me up......and no you can't use the 97 ecu in the 95, you need a 92-95 DX p06 ecu

 

How about if I used the engine harness from the 97 to use its ecu...?

Would that work?

Stubborn as a mule. That's me.


Modified by GDMarin at 7:20 PM 11/15/2007

 

no, it won't. If you don't want to spend any money and just get it running use the long block(block and head)and transmision from the 97 and transfer everything else from the old 95 engine.