z6 motor with ZC trans, ZC intermediate issue
ok i just finish installing my ZC tranny on my D15Z6 motor and im having a problem with the half shaft it has this bracket that i think needs to bolt up to the motor but my motor has to hold where i cant bolt it too, what should i do????
What? Please tell me if this is what you want:
You have a d15z6 and you mated a zc tranny to it. Now you go to install the half shaft and you noticed there is no mounting holes on the block?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the zc half shaft could only be used on a dohc zc engine do to the mouting holes.
You have a d15z6 and you mated a zc tranny to it. Now you go to install the half shaft and you noticed there is no mounting holes on the block?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the zc half shaft could only be used on a dohc zc engine do to the mouting holes.
Nope there should be holes to mount the halfshaft too. I have a ZC trans on my d16a6 right now and have looked at the z6 blocks too see if they have the holes to mount it too. the single hole should be at the top and the two holes should be at the bottom. I tried to find a pic but I cant. I can take a pic of mine with my phone if needed.
ok here's where u went wrong. the ZC block uses the intermediate shaft BUT the Z6 block doesnt because u need to use the stock civic/crx axles. on regular single cam motorts they use a short passenger side axle and a longer driver side axle. so ditch the current axles and intermediate shaft u have now and use the right axles or drill holes onto the z6 block (not recommended) and botl up ur intermediate shaft. i would just use the correct axles and transmission
Modified by crx_si-r at 7:49 AM 11/5/2007
Modified by crx_si-r at 7:49 AM 11/5/2007
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought all d-series blocks had the holes already there to put the half shaft. My d16a6 has them and so does my d16z6 block. I don't see why the d15 would not.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90efhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Correct me if I am wrong but I thought all d-series blocks had the holes already there to put the half shaft. My d16a6 has them and so does my d16z6 block. I don't see why the d15 would not.</TD></TR></TABLE>this is a D15 block:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freddysEF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what year would that be</TD></TR></TABLE>you mean intermediate shaft? it is 88-91 - engine is 88-91 DX
Modified by jlicrx at 12:37 PM 11/5/2007
Modified by jlicrx at 12:37 PM 11/5/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freddysEF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all right thanks a lot i think the reason my is that working is because its from a usd 89 integra
</TD></TR></TABLE>Integra Intermediate shaft is not the same - neither is the ZC for automatic transmission which has different bracket nor the OBD1 ZC which has a male end where the axle fits on
this ZC on left and Integra on right, that someone tried to modify to make it fit:

this is OBD1 ZC shaft:
</TD></TR></TABLE>Integra Intermediate shaft is not the same - neither is the ZC for automatic transmission which has different bracket nor the OBD1 ZC which has a male end where the axle fits on
this ZC on left and Integra on right, that someone tried to modify to make it fit:

this is OBD1 ZC shaft:
You can't use regular civic axles for a number of reasons.
One the zc trans has B series sized holes so the splines won't grab anything, they'll just sit there secondly once you get DA integra inner joints you can get them to fit in the transmission BUT the drivers side gear in the diff is not cut so that the lock ring locks in place. AT least mine didn't. I tried making some custom jdm half civic half DA axles but wound up having to use the ZC int shaft and one bolt holding to the block.
All three bolt holes are there but only one was tapped on my engine (93 ex 2dr 5spd if i recall) so that is the hole i'm using.
Also a DA or DC teg int shaft WILL NOT FIT. it is longer, you have to use the ZC. I think the only shaft that will fit a ZC trans on a ZC/D-series is the zc int shaft, the d16a1 (old school teg) might fit but i've not set them side by side.
So basically if your block has the holes for the int shaft one should be good to use; if not drill/tap it or get a D16Z6 block they're better in about every way compared to the d15 and its not like they're expensive to find.
Also use DA integra axles, driver and passenger; i started off with two passenger but had to exchange one for a drivers side w/ the longer splines and no lock ring to fit in the zc int. shaft.
anyway good luck w/ the project; pm me if you have any questions about the zc/d combo
One the zc trans has B series sized holes so the splines won't grab anything, they'll just sit there secondly once you get DA integra inner joints you can get them to fit in the transmission BUT the drivers side gear in the diff is not cut so that the lock ring locks in place. AT least mine didn't. I tried making some custom jdm half civic half DA axles but wound up having to use the ZC int shaft and one bolt holding to the block.
All three bolt holes are there but only one was tapped on my engine (93 ex 2dr 5spd if i recall) so that is the hole i'm using.
Also a DA or DC teg int shaft WILL NOT FIT. it is longer, you have to use the ZC. I think the only shaft that will fit a ZC trans on a ZC/D-series is the zc int shaft, the d16a1 (old school teg) might fit but i've not set them side by side.
So basically if your block has the holes for the int shaft one should be good to use; if not drill/tap it or get a D16Z6 block they're better in about every way compared to the d15 and its not like they're expensive to find.
Also use DA integra axles, driver and passenger; i started off with two passenger but had to exchange one for a drivers side w/ the longer splines and no lock ring to fit in the zc int. shaft.
anyway good luck w/ the project; pm me if you have any questions about the zc/d combo
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pay2play killa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can't use regular civic axles for a number of reasons.
One the zc trans has B series sized holes so the splines won't grab anything, they'll just sit there secondly once you get DA integra inner joints you can get them to fit in the transmission BUT the drivers side gear in the diff is not cut so that the lock ring locks in place. AT least mine didn't. I tried making some custom jdm half civic half DA axles but wound up having to use the ZC int shaft and one bolt holding to the block.
All three bolt holes are there but only one was tapped on my engine (93 ex 2dr 5spd if i recall) so that is the hole i'm using.
Also a DA or DC teg int shaft WILL NOT FIT. it is longer, you have to use the ZC. I think the only shaft that will fit a ZC trans on a ZC/D-series is the zc int shaft, the d16a1 (old school teg) might fit but i've not set them side by side.
So basically if your block has the holes for the int shaft one should be good to use; if not drill/tap it or get a D16Z6 block they're better in about every way compared to the d15 and its not like they're expensive to find.
Also use DA integra axles, driver and passenger; i started off with two passenger but had to exchange one for a drivers side w/ the longer splines and no lock ring to fit in the zc int. shaft.
anyway good luck w/ the project; pm me if you have any questions about the zc/d combo </TD></TR></TABLE>
you have your half shaft bolted to only one hole in the block??? zc half shafts arent a dime a dozen. took me a while to find one.i was going to use the zc inner cv joints my trans came with to get axles made. but instead i got Da axles. just Pm jlicrx he knows more about the zc then anyone.
One the zc trans has B series sized holes so the splines won't grab anything, they'll just sit there secondly once you get DA integra inner joints you can get them to fit in the transmission BUT the drivers side gear in the diff is not cut so that the lock ring locks in place. AT least mine didn't. I tried making some custom jdm half civic half DA axles but wound up having to use the ZC int shaft and one bolt holding to the block.
All three bolt holes are there but only one was tapped on my engine (93 ex 2dr 5spd if i recall) so that is the hole i'm using.
Also a DA or DC teg int shaft WILL NOT FIT. it is longer, you have to use the ZC. I think the only shaft that will fit a ZC trans on a ZC/D-series is the zc int shaft, the d16a1 (old school teg) might fit but i've not set them side by side.
So basically if your block has the holes for the int shaft one should be good to use; if not drill/tap it or get a D16Z6 block they're better in about every way compared to the d15 and its not like they're expensive to find.
Also use DA integra axles, driver and passenger; i started off with two passenger but had to exchange one for a drivers side w/ the longer splines and no lock ring to fit in the zc int. shaft.
anyway good luck w/ the project; pm me if you have any questions about the zc/d combo </TD></TR></TABLE>
you have your half shaft bolted to only one hole in the block??? zc half shafts arent a dime a dozen. took me a while to find one.i was going to use the zc inner cv joints my trans came with to get axles made. but instead i got Da axles. just Pm jlicrx he knows more about the zc then anyone.
yea only one bolt.
I was pretty leary and considered puling the block and drilling/tapping at least one more hole but 2 guys here on h-t said they were running like that just fine.
so sure enough 1200-1500mi later and i'm still good.
only problem so far is my passenger side axle got in the habit of popping out whenever but we widened the lock ring a bit and its stayed in thus far.
Yea i was going to use the zc inners too but the drivers side outer diff gear isn't cut for a lock ring; you put an axle in it just slides around, never locks in place so you're kinda sol and have to use a half shaft. My zc trans came w/ the half shaft and one inner joint and that thing popped right into the pass side but never locked in the drivers side.
I was pretty leary and considered puling the block and drilling/tapping at least one more hole but 2 guys here on h-t said they were running like that just fine.
so sure enough 1200-1500mi later and i'm still good.
only problem so far is my passenger side axle got in the habit of popping out whenever but we widened the lock ring a bit and its stayed in thus far.
Yea i was going to use the zc inners too but the drivers side outer diff gear isn't cut for a lock ring; you put an axle in it just slides around, never locks in place so you're kinda sol and have to use a half shaft. My zc trans came w/ the half shaft and one inner joint and that thing popped right into the pass side but never locked in the drivers side.
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