Hey well i am going go with a full coilover on my 1997 civic, but i have narrowed it down to either ksport or tien, and a lot of my friends have said that tien is overrated and that i should get ksport, they are about the same price so I just need some ideas on people that might have had either one please help me out it would be great thanks,

 

I guess it depends on if you are racing or not.I have not used Teins but I heard that they are not that comfortable for daily driving but are better for track use(someone correct me if I'm wrong).I have Ksports on my CD5 and I am very satisfied with them for daily driving.It also helps that they are roughly two to three hundred dollars cheaper than Teins.One thing to definitely consider though is that Tein has a very good track record for reliability and customer service. How about A'pexi? I hear they make really good coilovers.

 

i had Ksports on my Si i didnt like them to much ride was not comfortable at all. i hear d2's are a good full coilover supsension maybe you should look into it

 

what are the price range for the K's sport damper for dc2

 

Based on user reviews of product and customer service, I would probably go with a coilover setup from PIC rather then either K-Sport or Tein.

However I'm partial to the Koni/GC setup myself.

 

I Love my KSPORTS.............in an EG Hatch

Best bang for the buck......

 

KSPORT!

 

wow guys, way to give some info about why you chose them over others.

Those last 2 posts really don't help the OP much at all.

 

I have Koni/GC combo and love them. Koni has a lifetime warranty on their struts and has been around forever. On the other hand I've heard great things about PIC and everybody says there customer service is unbeatable.

 

What info would you like?? other than KSPORT

He should get the message about this.......

Good ride.....nice suspension....great price.....

 

I've had various setups on my cars. Here's my take on them;

1. Koni/Eibach Prokit - Felt great on the streets, very comfortable. Decent suspension and fairly cheap. I was able to keep up with my friends M3 and his friends Cadillac CTS-V on a canyon run earlier this year. One problem. I blew out the front shock within 1-2K miles. Pissed me off, but was able to get a new one straight from Koni. You have to prepay for a new one, send the blown shock in, and its up to them to reimburse you.

Now, you guys are probably thinking I can't avoid potholes or don't know sh*t about installing or that the car was dumped. Think what you want, but I do know how to avoid potholes, the car had a 3 finger gap in the front and 2 finger gap in the rear, and I had the koni/eibach and koni/gc professionally installed by Tony Fuchs. That sh*t was installed correctly.

2. Koni/GC - Stiff for the street but still driveable. If you set it close to full soft, its pretty comfortable. Took it on a few canyon runs and handles great. One problem. Blew the drivers side shock AGAIN. Once again, it pissed me off. Both the Koni setups were ran on my old DC. I also ran custom GC spring rates with this setup, but not far off from the OTS rates. I believe it was 400f/350r (or vice versa).

3. Tein Flex- Installed it 2-3 weeks ago. I have since taken it on 3 canyon runs and also taken it to work twice (work is 55 miles away). The car handles GREAT with this setup. I love it. This definitely felt a lot better on the turns vs. the Koni/GC setup. I have a few people that can vouch for it, such as 1turbodc2 as well as Donut. I took them with me on a night canyon run and they both said the car handled great with the setup. I did the install with Donut. Easy to install, easy to change the ride height and damping.

On the street, its stiffer compared to the koni/gc

The Koni/GC setup left a sour taste on my mouth. I highly doubt I'll go back to it. I can give a rats a*s about koni's shock dyno sheet vs. tein flex's dyno sheet. If you do need to see a comparison, check out this link http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=166909 My experience with the two is based on personal use. Who knows, the Tein Flex's can blow out tomorrow and I'll be hating on them just like the Koni/GC. Only time will tell. I will be tracking with the Tein Flex's soon.

You definitely get what you pay for. Koni/GC setup with custom rates will run you $760 shipped. Tein Flex is 12-1400 without the EDFC. I bought my set used but was in great condition. I couldn't be happier with this setup.

Don't fall prey to the knockoff coilovers hype. They're cheap for a reason. I personally think people hate on Tein because their low end stuff isn't that great. But their high end coilovers work great. I would save up and buy something high end first and be done with it.

 

wow that's odd. My Konis are still going strong at nearly 6 years on my car and 150K+ miles.

 

Yeah who knows. The damn adjuster got stuck both times, which meant the shock bottomed out. Maybe I got a bad batch?

 

the guys that vouch for Ksport coilovers. do you guys have track experience? how do the coilovers hold up?

There was a thread I found somewhere on here saying that, as the more laps he was running the coilovers just gave out and they went soft. I will try to find that thread.

here it is https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2139483

 

I'm amazed, so many people chiming in on Ksport without bashing them. We have Ksport Kontrol Pro's on our EG hatch and have had great luck so far and really like them. They have been on the car for almost 2 years. Normal driving on the street they are a little stiff, but not harsh. They actually ride alot better that the lowering spring/shock setup we had before. In my opinion they are hard to beat for the price.

Sadly we haven't had them on the track yet, the car has been torn apart getting ready for some track days in the Spring. They have held up well under several thousand miles of spirited street driving though. I know that's nowhere near the abuse they will see on the track, but all I can put in for now.

 

I have been in a car that tracked with KSports. My brother in law has them on his 240. A lot of folks actually track with KSports. Out of all the knockoff coilovers, if I were forced to get a set, I would have went with KSports or F2's, again, because of my experience in being with cars with those suspension setups.

The KSports, surprisingly worked great on the track. Now, I don't know how long they'll hold up so I can't comment on that. But in the limited seat time I've had with them, they seem fine.

I would still go with a high end setup and just be done with it. Why worry about whether the coilovers will hold up? I'd purchase something that has been proven and will last a long time. I'm happy with my choice. Tein Flex FTW.

 

Do not get D2s, I have a set on my 240sx and they just driving down my driveway I can feel the poor dampening in compairason to the Tein HAs in my civic.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FarinaMotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm amazed, so many people chiming in on Ksport without bashing them. We have Ksport Kontrol Pro's on our EG hatch and have had great luck so far and really like them. They have been on the car for almost 2 years. Normal driving on the street they are a little stiff, but not harsh. They actually ride alot better that the lowering spring/shock setup we had before. In my opinion they are hard to beat for the price.

Sadly we haven't had them on the track yet, the car has been torn apart getting ready for some track days in the Spring. They have held up well under several thousand miles of spirited street driving though. I know that's nowhere near the abuse they will see on the track, but all I can put in for now.</TD></TR></TABLE>


well, the reason why I wanted to get into this conversation was because I just recently purchased the Ksport pro series kit, and I installed them on my dc2 today and they are great. Im hoping to be on the track soon to test them out. but I went up to the local mountains around here after I installed them and they feel great. So I guess from what I have read from this thread and after driving in the mountains, it seems like I made the right choice. I cant knock on the TEINs because I have not tried them. But from what I have experienced today after I installed these, it seems that Ksport may be the way to go as far as price and function. Then only thing that I can say is that the rear spring rate on this can be a little stiffer. but thats just me.

 

holly goddamn mother of god, this is a joke right? how can anybody compare tein to ksport? its like saying "volk or rota"

TEIN&gt;ksport end of story.

 

The guy was probably comparing KSports to Tein Basics /Super Street. I actually would get KSports over the basics.

KSports vs. Koni/GC? Probably the Koni/GC setup even though it left a sour taste in my mouth.

KSports vs Tein SS/Tein Flex - Tein Flex FTW

 

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KSports vs. Koni/GC? Probably the Koni/GC setup even though it left a sour taste in my mouth.

KSports vs Tein SS/Tein Flex - Tein Flex FTW</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok that makes sense i guess, yeah i would never buy tein basic... got to be monoflex but im happy with my skunk/koni set up

 

Which Teins are you comparing to which KSports? There's a decent price range for both KSport coilovers and Tein coilovers. Yeah, the KSport Kontrol Pro coilovers are gonna be a lot cheaper than the Tein Flex or HA or RA. Comfort is also an opinion...I have KSports on my car and I think they're fine for daily driving. They're pretty stiff, but I don't mind it.


If you got KSports for comfort then you have other issues...did you play with the damper settings to possibly get a better ride? Also, D2s are NOT going to be more comfortable than the KSports...their spring rates are noticeably higher and I really really doubt the dampers are better by the same margin.


If you have the money for a PIC kit, get it. I have yet to hear one negative review of their products.


If you're giving an opinion or review on a type of suspension and are recommending it to someone, what good is it if you just tell them what brand it is and say it's good? Give some REASONS WHY you think it's good. You're also spouting a bunch of opinions with nothing to back them up at all. That's the info people need.


You're comparing apples to chickens here (not even apples to oranges)...You're saying that the damping of a set of budget coilovers on a 240SX isn't as good as the damping on a pretty high-end, MUCH more expensive set of Teins on a civic... D2s and Tein HAs are very very different coilovers with very different intentions, so it's not really fair to put them on the same playing ground.


You can't automatically assume that if Tein is mentioned it's the Flex or HA or RA...if someone's considering KSports and Teins, wouldn't it be logical to assume that they're talking about the Tein Basics or the SS?


You can't put the Tein SS and Flex on the same page...it's like saying the base Mini Cooper is better than the Civic EX/Civic Si. Of course the Tein Flex is going to be better than the KSports, it costs a lot more and is a higher-end coilover.

Assuming for a second that KSports and Koni/GC cost the same, I don't think there would be any reason to get the KSports, unless you really don't want to assemble your suspension. The reliability and customer service attached to the Konis is hard to beat, and the warranties for the Konis and Ground Controls are infinitely longer than that of KSport. What pushes people to KSports a lot of the time is that they're cheaper than most alternatives and provide more adjustability than most coilovers under $1000.


I may have come across as kind of an *** here, but I just felt as though some things here needed to be cleared up.

To the OP...which Teins were you looking at? If you're looking at even the SS, the KSports have higher spring rates, more adjustability, and they come completely assembled. The Teins will require you to partially disassemble your stock suspension and transfer some parts over, they'll likely be a bit more comfortable, they might last longer (can't say for sure), and I think they have a longer warranty (again, not really sure).

 

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well, the reason why I wanted to get into this conversation was because I just recently purchased the Ksport pro series kit, and I installed them on my dc2 today and they are great. Im hoping to be on the track soon to test them out. but I went up to the local mountains around here after I installed them and they feel great. So I guess from what I have read from this thread and after driving in the mountains, it seems like I made the right choice. I cant knock on the TEINs because I have not tried them. But from what I have experienced today after I installed these, it seems that Ksport may be the way to go as far as price and function. Then only thing that I can say is that the rear spring rate on this can be a little stiffer. but thats just me.

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Once you get them on the track I'd like to hear how they do. I agree, it seems for the price they are hard to beat. My only complaint would be the rear spring rate too. It's a little high for the street, but probably good for the track. Can't have it all I guess.

 

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Once you get them on the track I'd like to hear how they do. I agree, it seems for the price they are hard to beat. My only complaint would be the rear spring rate too. It's a little high for the street, but probably good for the track. Can't have it all I guess.</TD></TR></TABLE>

will definantly let you know.

 

$580 shipped on TunerzImage? I think imma get Ksports... They're not BAD and for less than $600 that's a steal.