What's the best set up for a great handling CRX?
I'm not an expert on this stuff so i ask you guys, what is the best set up for a great handling CRX?
Here's what i think based on my limited knowledge. Let me know if i'm wrong.
*performance springs (i heard .75 -1.75 is the best for performance)
*performance shocks
*polyurethane bushings
*upper strut bars front/back
*sway bar in the rear because it's a FF and you want to tighten up the rear.
*lightweight rims
And what about tire size and width? That's crucial right?
Am i missing anything else?
Here's what i think based on my limited knowledge. Let me know if i'm wrong.
*performance springs (i heard .75 -1.75 is the best for performance)
*performance shocks
*polyurethane bushings
*upper strut bars front/back
*sway bar in the rear because it's a FF and you want to tighten up the rear.
*lightweight rims
And what about tire size and width? That's crucial right?
Am i missing anything else?
I'm pretty sure bigger rims will give you the best turning handling because it gets rid of sidewall length. Smaller wheel= more acceleration, bigger wheel=more top speed. It also wouldn't hurt to sway bar both front and rear. I have no idea what you should do with springs.
heres my set up and i do monthly autocross and daily drive it. koni yellow struts on ground control coilovers. neuspeed front and rear upper strut brace suspension technique rear lower anti sway bar, hf front lower sway bar. 195/50/15 bridgestone potenza re-01r tires onm rota group n's. i also have all new bushings (oem).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SFlCrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres my set up and i do monthly autocross and daily drive it. koni yellow struts on ground control coilovers. neuspeed front and rear upper strut brace suspension technique rear lower anti sway bar, hf front lower sway bar. 195/50/15 bridgestone potenza re-01r tires onm rota group n's. i also have all new bushings (oem).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't you think upgrading to urethane bushings would be helpful?
Don't you think upgrading to urethane bushings would be helpful?
<-- ksport coilovers with 12K springs up front and 10K rear. a little bouncey for street use but lets just say i get hardly any squat.15X7" maxim screech. light and wide. wrapped in 195/50/15 yokohama avses100s. super sticky dry tire. went with 195 cause i had rubbing issues with the 205.
strut bars are ok as long as you get a 1piece design like cusco or passwordjdm for example.
strut bars are ok as long as you get a 1piece design like cusco or passwordjdm for example.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HxCforever »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><-- ksport coilovers with 12K springs up front and 10K rear. a little bouncey for street use but lets just say i get hardly any squat.15X7" maxim screech. light and wide. wrapped in 195/50/15 yokohama avses100s. super sticky dry tire. went with 195 cause i had rubbing issues with the 205.
strut bars are ok as long as you get a 1piece design like cusco or passwordjdm for example.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice setup but there are so many better tires for that wheel those are my daily tires great in the rain and allright when dry. i use 195/50/15s bridgestone potenza re-01r and falken azenis rt-615s for auto cross
strut bars are ok as long as you get a 1piece design like cusco or passwordjdm for example.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice setup but there are so many better tires for that wheel those are my daily tires great in the rain and allright when dry. i use 195/50/15s bridgestone potenza re-01r and falken azenis rt-615s for auto cross
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gursh d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the ST rear sway bar (22mm I think) is said to make a world of a difference in handling. Might want to look into that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed best suspension mod other then the coilovers and struts
agreed best suspension mod other then the coilovers and struts
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SFlCrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nice setup but there are so many better tires for that wheel those are my daily tires great in the rain and allright when dry. i use 195/50/15s bridgestone potenza re-01r and falken azenis rt-615s for auto cross</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry to thread jack but also very usfeull for this thread. how are the rt615s? i had the rt215s on my hatch a couple years ago. i ate them up in less then 5k miles, dd and autocross
nice setup but there are so many better tires for that wheel those are my daily tires great in the rain and allright when dry. i use 195/50/15s bridgestone potenza re-01r and falken azenis rt-615s for auto cross</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry to thread jack but also very usfeull for this thread. how are the rt615s? i had the rt215s on my hatch a couple years ago. i ate them up in less then 5k miles, dd and autocross
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klion22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys are talking about just the rear sway bar from ST right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes
yes
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HxCforever »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
sorry to thread jack but also very usfeull for this thread. how are the rt615s? i had the rt215s on my hatch a couple years ago. i ate them up in less then 5k miles, dd and autocross</TD></TR></TABLE>
they don't last if your dd but there great tires for autocross i have 2 set of wheels dd and autocross. i autocross once a month and the night before an event i put the falkens on. they will last a long time if you only use them once a month. you should get an extra set of wheel for autocross. the bridgestone potenza re-01r is a better tire if you got the extra cash
sorry to thread jack but also very usfeull for this thread. how are the rt615s? i had the rt215s on my hatch a couple years ago. i ate them up in less then 5k miles, dd and autocross</TD></TR></TABLE>
they don't last if your dd but there great tires for autocross i have 2 set of wheels dd and autocross. i autocross once a month and the night before an event i put the falkens on. they will last a long time if you only use them once a month. you should get an extra set of wheel for autocross. the bridgestone potenza re-01r is a better tire if you got the extra cash
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HxCforever »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as long as the tires, suspension are tuned right for your power application and driving skill is high then understeer is obsolite</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct i have had better times then evos its all set up and alot of skills
correct i have had better times then evos its all set up and alot of skills
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There's alot of options. I personally like having alot more spring in the rear then OTS spring rates, I'm putting 7 x 2.5 inch Eibachs on my progress type II coilovers in the coming spring along with an Si rear sway with something in the region of 500F / 700R for occasional HPDE and Auto-x use. I don't believe you need as much sway as some of those bars give you, but it also has alot to do with what your comfortable with as well. It seems like alot of the fast FWD cars run a tad softer spring in the front then in the rear rather then over bar the car so it is not compliant and would rather stay stiff then put the tire to the ground.
But more so then parts, alignment angles have a huge part in dictating how your car reacts from your input. Camber should be a healthy bit negative in the front and slight negative in the rear. Toe-out is an alignment angle that can help understeer as well when applied correctly for the track and vehicle. Research alot in the road racing forum, and theres also innumerable books on the subject, my favorite is called Chassis Engineering, alot of valuable information in there that can be applied to our cars.
But more so then parts, alignment angles have a huge part in dictating how your car reacts from your input. Camber should be a healthy bit negative in the front and slight negative in the rear. Toe-out is an alignment angle that can help understeer as well when applied correctly for the track and vehicle. Research alot in the road racing forum, and theres also innumerable books on the subject, my favorite is called Chassis Engineering, alot of valuable information in there that can be applied to our cars.
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