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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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Heres my times:
R/T: 1.228
60': 2.398
330: 6.396
1/8: 9.787
MPH: 72.43
1000: 12.708
1/4: 15.181
MPH: 93.12

That was on a stock 93 vtec prelude. I am pissssssssssed off! I really wanted to get into the 14's, I know I could have. Any driving tips or ideas that would do it? Oh, btw, when I made that run it was about 80 degrees out.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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well if it makes you feel anybetter thats normally what I get...I used to have bald nitto 555r's on kinda hard to put the power down..You probaly get mad wheel hop and spin. Still a nice run on my nitrous I only get 8.80 in the 1/8.


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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Yeah, I know it was a normal run, but I wanna be better then normal, I had mad wheel hop in first and then when I shifted into second not only did I chirp, but I like completely burned out which didnt help to much. infact, it was so violent in first that a) my radar detector torpedoed into my face and my stereo flew out and hit my hand. I need 14's!

Edit: One more thing; I heard that in different gears you should shift at different RPM's...like you shoudl shift higher in first then you in in 2nd and 4rd...is this true? If anyone has the perfect shift points throughout all of the gears, that would be great!


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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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well get rid of the wheel hop and you'll be good to go. what's your suspension set up?
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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Work on your 60ft time and you should be able to do it.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Went to the track last night... (Pyrochaos38)

every car has diff shift points. learn your own car. no one can tell you when to shift.

if you get your 60' time down to 2.2x you will prob hit 14's. your trap is there, just need to work on the launch.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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The Prelude VTEC makes peak power at 6800 rpms...so after that you're losing power. Here's the way I do it:

1st - Ride it all the way to the redline, you have to if you want to make sure you stay in VTEC through the 1-2 shift

2nd - Shift at 7100 or so...you can go redline, but the car pulls really well in 3rd so you're better off shifting earlier

3rd - Depending on the run, I will finish right at the rev limiter, or I will shift to 4th

Knock your 60ft down to 2.2 and you'll be in the 14s in no time. Learn to launch better, however track conditions will always have a big effect on that. try launch around 4000 and work the gas and clutch to get rid of the wheel hop. Good Luck
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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Knock your 60ft down to 2.2 and you'll be in the 14s in no time. Learn to launch better, however track conditions will always have a big effect on that. try launch around 4000 and work the gas and clutch to get rid of the wheel hop. Good Luck
Really, Dont you think with his 93 MPH trap time, he would be in the 14's with a 2.2 60'f time............All of your post was jibber-jabber.....Thinkin you know how to drive.......Lookie me im a drag racer.........Tellin the boy how to shift and ****.....Anyone with a 93MPH trap and a 2.2 60' time is in the high 14's.......Duh
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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those are decent times. Work on ur reaction times, and try to get ur 60fts down. Maybe less wheels spin or u could even try lowering the psi in your tires. That should get u into the 14's.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 07:05 AM
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He asked for tips, and your flaming me for giving him the answer? Who the hell are you?

Trap time is not directly related to 1/4 ET. Here's ME in the 14's with near 2.4s 60 and a 92MPH trap.


Lookee me I'm a drag racer! For a guy that has a lot of 1/4 mile times in his sig, you're pretty ignorant.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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Knock your 60ft down to 2.2 and you'll be in the 14s in no time. Learn to launch better, however track conditions will always have a big effect on that. try launch around 4000 and work the gas and clutch to get rid of the wheel hop. Good Luck

Really, Dont you think with his 93 MPH trap time, he would be in the 14's with a 2.2 60'f time............All of your post was jibber-jabber.....Thinkin you know how to drive.......Lookie me im a drag racer.........Tellin the boy how to shift and ****.....Anyone with a 93MPH trap and a 2.2 60' time is in the high 14's.......Duh
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Dude, he was just trying to help what the fawk is your problem?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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The Prelude VTEC makes peak power at 6800 rpms...so after that you're losing power. Here's the way I do it:

1st - Ride it all the way to the redline, you have to if you want to make sure you stay in VTEC through the 1-2 shift

2nd - Shift at 7100 or so...you can go redline, but the car pulls really well in 3rd so you're better off shifting earlier

3rd - Depending on the run, I will finish right at the rev limiter, or I will shift to 4th

Knock your 60ft down to 2.2 and you'll be in the 14s in no time. Learn to launch better, however track conditions will always have a big effect on that. try launch around 4000 and work the gas and clutch to get rid of the wheel hop. Good Luck
And thanks for those tips, I will try a few different things next time I go.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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well get rid of the wheel hop and you'll be good to go. what's your suspension set up?
I have KYB AGX's and Eibach sportline springs. I heard that when drag racing, I should put the front on soft and the rear on hard. Is this correct?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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What track, pacific race way? How much was it?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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What track, pacific race way? How much was it?
Yeah. we went to Pacific Raceway. I went with 3 preluds, an integra, and a type R. You should come with us next time!
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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I am no expert with drag racing by any means...but why does he need to work on his reaction time to get a better 1/4 mile time? I'd say, screw the reaction time and the car next to you. Just concentrate on launching the car and shifting...who cares if you beat the car next to you or lose, after all you are looking to see what your car can do right?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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I am no expert with drag racing by any means...but why does he need to work on his reaction time to get a better 1/4 mile time? I'd say, screw the reaction time and the car next to you. Just concentrate on launching the car and shifting...who cares if you beat the car next to you or lose, after all you are looking to see what your car can do right?
True doesn't matter in test & tune, but if he ever goes in competition it would.

What tires were you running at the track anyway?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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stock 4th gen h22's are rated at 15.1 on the quarter mile, so it looks like you are a pretty good driver if you are cutting out the same times as the guys that test the cars. some guys do break 14s with stock h22 (assuming NO mods or weight reduction) and im not doubting them at all but sometimes the track plays a role in how fast/slow your times are. anyways, point being it is VERY easy for you to hit 14s, i think with a little more practice you should be able to cut 14s. you may want to think about deflating your tires a bit, that always helps out a little. with any simple bolt-on mod you should be in 14s easily.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Question, whether you react sooner or later, I still don't see how the 1/4 mile time will be effected. The timing does not start until you cross the timing device and stops when you cross the 1/4 mile mark. I guess you are saying that in competition the timing starts as soon as the green light goes off? Please clarify. Thanks.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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rt doesnt affect your 1/4 time
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 06:11 AM
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what I'm saying is that in "elimination" competitions it's the guy who crosses the line first that wins, so r/t does matter quite a bit
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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nfeidler3, thanks for backing me up. People just don't read what I post...I said if the guy wants to improve 1/4 mile time he doesn't need to react faster...but someone is "knocking on my head" because he/she didn't read what I posted. Yes, I think by now I would know that if a car leaves the line first it would have a better chance of finishing first.


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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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i hit a 15.2@93mph in my integ gsr with a 60ft of 2.3
i wish i was in the 14's wat could be the problem here??
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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i hit a 15.2@93mph in my integ gsr with a 60ft of 2.3
i wish i was in the 14's wat could be the problem here??
Dude that's a very good time with a GS-R! What mods?


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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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I think that in the first couple gears you should shift right at the redline to take advantage of the lower gearing, even though the torque has dropped off significantly by then (it still pulls harder than the next gear). In the higher gears, though, drag has more of an effect, so it would probably be better to shift closer to the torque peak.

Just eyeball your tac; what rpm does your needle just start to piddle off? By 3rd and forth gear i shift my integ at 6k to keep the needle moving. Maybe that's just my tired old engine, but i know i make sense...

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