As the title says, i'm interested in knowing what kinda power it's going to take for me to make a high 10sec. pass in a full interior EG Coupe.

 

what does it weigh, can you drive, what kind of tire, suspension..

Depending on weight you can get in the tens with 4-450. I am guessing the car weighs around 24-2700. right around 500 should do it if the car is setup right

 

I'm no professional driver by any means, but i'd say i'm one of the better locals.

Basicly i've got a pile of parts that i've been gathering that i'm going to be getting ready for next season. Obviously i don't have all the details yet because thats what i'm workin on now but heres the rough idea.

I've got a Dart Block, & a GSR Vtec head thats been port & polished with all titanium internals, dual valve springs ect.

I'm also kinda curious if i can make it to my goal with my existing turbo (t3/t4 .60/.63) ?? thoughts on this?

Current Suspension:
Tokio 5-way adjustable struts
Skunk2 coil overs
noname strut bars
lakewood traction bars
rear sway bar
hasport mounts


Modified by Running925 at 7:10 AM 10/30/2007

 

Driving, Power/Weight Ratio, Traction. Lots of combinations of things. You can get away with 10's with lots of power, lightweight and spinning down the run way. You can also have good traction, moderate hp good driving etc etc.

 

yah that 60.63 shouldbe able to do it.. drive the **** out of it good lsd will make that pass happen

 

take if from me... it really takes the right suspension to get 10s...

I had the power this year, but couldnt put it down to the ground... I didnt have LSD and I had 24.5 slicks... this year im building a better tranny with a quaife LSD and a nice set of coils to stop me from spinnin

 

You should make it in to the 10s with around 460whp if your trapping 125+ thats good for 10's just learn to use the slicks and it will come!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Topdawgg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take if from me... it really takes the right suspension to get 10s...

I had the power this year, but couldnt put it down to the ground... I didnt have LSD and I had 24.5 slicks... this year im building a better tranny with a quaife LSD and a nice set of coils to stop me from spinnin</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, i had a serious traction problem last year! thus the reason i upgraded my tranny with an obx LSD & added the traction bars. I already had my struts & springs from doing some prior auto x stuff.

Any idea how much pressure i can run on that .60/.63 b4 it will begin to heat soak?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fmfkid250 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should make it in to the 10s with around 460whp if your trapping 125+ thats good for 10's just learn to use the slicks and it will come!</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was trappin 126-127 mph... but was roastin the tires.... with a nasty 2.2/2.3 60 ft with slicks...

then when i was cuttin 1.8 60s, it was boggin up top and only trappin 114-115.... i just had bad luck this year.. lol

 

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i was trappin 126-127 mph... but was roastin the tires.... with a nasty 2.2/2.3 60 ft with slicks...

then when i was cuttin 1.8 60s, it was boggin up top and only trappin 114-115.... i just had bad luck this year.. lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

Christ, you ever try slipping the clutch heavily. I was cutting 2.0 60' consistantly on 17in drag radials coming off a 5,600RPM 2-step. I was trapping right around 113-115. Hondas from my expierence do not really like to be "dump'd" right out of the hole, thats why pre-loading or slipping the clutch seems to work so well. Atlest for me

2.2 on a 24.5in slick is really really bad, no offence or anything but there is something majorly wrong there. Tire pressure is an extremly important thing to consider as well as track temps. A smaller tire isnt always a bad thing also.

 

car weight of 2250lbs. and around 270 wheel torque,slicks and some suspension and your golden

 

i dont know how much psi u can run before it get too hot that all depends on how efficient your ic setup is.. just let your tuner figure that out.. he will see the iats raise to a unsafe level and back the boost down a bit

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THEDirtyDseriesWOOT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know how much psi u can run before it get too hot that all depends on how efficient your ic setup is.. just let your tuner figure that out.. he will see the iats raise to a unsafe level and back the boost down a bit</TD></TR></TABLE>

i've been tuning the car my self for the last 2 years.

Crome Pro (Wideband & EGT on-board)

IC Setup is All mandrel bent pipes (mostly aluminum) with a JRC 8inch

 

10.7 with 430 to the wheels. first pass ever with that set up and power. car weighed about 2450

 

good news, thank you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">10.7 with 430 to the wheels. first pass ever with that set up and power. car weighed about 2450</TD></TR></TABLE>

nice!

 

your tracks down there are alot better kept and have alot more traction then we do up here... for one...

and in regards to my 2.2/2.3 60 foots, I got them down to 1.8 which was what the record around here for a FWD was cutting when he ran his 10.94

for example.. a local tuner was runnin 11.0 @ 139mph
he could not crack into the 10s this year.. although hes got the power to do it, and the slicks/suspension to do it, the tracks simply do not cut it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urbansi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Christ, you ever try slipping the clutch heavily. I was cutting 2.0 60' consistantly on 17in drag radials coming off a 5,600RPM 2-step. I was trapping right around 113-115. Hondas from my expierence do not really like to be "dump'd" right out of the hole, thats why pre-loading or slipping the clutch seems to work so well. Atlest for me

2.2 on a 24.5in slick is really really bad, no offence or anything but there is something majorly wrong there. Tire pressure is an extremly important thing to consider as well as track temps. A smaller tire isnt always a bad thing also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. on my 24.5's I was just dumping and still doin 1.6 60fts to bad the heat in the clutch made it slip up top for me. suspension is the key to good 60fts. I went from running mid 11's on stock ITR suspension to running 11.0's with my drag suspension set up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I agree. on my 24.5's I was just dumping and still doin 1.6 60fts to bad the heat in the clutch made it slip up top for me. suspension is the key to good 60fts. I went from running mid 11's on stock ITR suspension to running 11.0's with my drag suspension set up</TD></TR></TABLE>

Details on your "drag" suspension setup?

 

custom valved F&F coilovers with 1000K springs in the back and standard spring rates in the front. I got em from AMR Engineering.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Running925 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

JRC 8inch</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had one, and put on a precision and made alot more power.. that ic is good untill you start flowing 330hp+

 

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I had one, and put on a precision and made alot more power.. that ic is good untill you start flowing 330hp+</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you for that information, i was unaware of this.

I might have to do a little more research on this & possibly swap intercoolers.

 

10.57 w/ 451whp

 

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Thank you for that information, i was unaware of this.

I might have to do a little more research on this & possibly swap intercoolers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it was a difference from 2.25 ic pipeing and a jrc 8" 362whp @20 psi
to 3" ic pipeing and a precision 650hp it made 480whp@20psi

it was quite a big diff

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fmfkid250 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it was a difference from 2.25 ic pipeing and a jrc 8" 362whp @20 psi
to 3" ic pipeing and a precision 650hp it made 480whp@20psi

it was quite a big diff</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, thats a really big difference with the same pressure levels. Thats excelent info! Thanks

I'm currently running 2.5 inch piping on both sides.