i recently discovered that i need new trailing arm bushings. oem ones run $120 a pair, but the es are alot cheaper. i have heard that the es ones give alot of oversteer. especially if you already have the es master bushing set (which i do).

so i figured i ask HT to see what i should do. anybody out there have the es bushings?

 

of course the cars gonna oversteer compared to stock bushings,the suspension is stiffer with the E.S. bushings.i would go with the stiffer bushings and drive to compensate for the oversteer

 

i put in some prothane bushings, i dont get how they could "bind" there a full floating design work fine for me, back end feels less "mushy". just make sure u have a hydraulic press handy and some lube spray and itll be an easy job.

 

i just kept fresh oem bushing's, they came on my brand new rear arms, you could always set the car up to compensate for the oversteer, but if they are cheaper and you have the other one's why not complete the set?

 

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BUY OEM BUSHINGS AND NOT URETHANE!!!

Urethane bushings can cause bump steer from the rear of the car, which can cause a sudden loss of control in a turn. Ask this exact question in the road race/auto x forum and you won't get a single "go aftermarket urethane!" reply - trust me on this one.

I've got urethane busings on everything EXCEPT for trailing arms on my Civic because of the issue they create.

...and Spoon nor Mugen offer urethane trailing arm bushings - only "harder rubber" ones.

 

I just put them in a few weeks ago. so far so good but if i would have ad the cash i would have went with oem or something better, but again they are working ok now.
local honda dealer wants $250.00 to change oem bushings if I supply parts

 

My trailing arm bushings are torn as well and I am going to replace them with OEM.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUY OEM BUSHINGS AND NOT URETHANE!!!

Urethane bushings can cause bump steer from the rear of the car, which can cause a sudden loss of control in a turn. Ask this exact question in the road race/auto x forum and you won't get a single "go aftermarket urethane!" reply - trust me on this one.

I've got urethane busings on everything EXCEPT for trailing arms on my Civic because of the issue they create.

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hmm...i totally understand. not to mention, if you are suggesting it, then there is a reason.

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...and Spoon nor Mugen offer urethane trailing arm bushings - only "harder rubber" ones.
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are you suggesting these then? do you know hwere they sell some?
and if not that's cool too.

thanks again HT!

 

Sorry I just threw in the Spoon/Mugen thing to say that they don't endorse or use urethane, and they are legitimately some of the best Honda tuners around even if every bandwagonner loves them blindly.



Seriously though I'd get the stock ones.

Have you tried http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com yet? Might be cheaper there.

 

There is also a great tool out there for removing the bushing from the trailing arm while its still on the car you can do each side in under and hour if all the bolts come out okay. Trust me it is the a great tool and works wonders

here is the one I used
http://shoptoolsshoptools.com/...Tools+

 

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Seriously though I'd get the stock ones.

Have you tried http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com yet? Might be cheaper there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instructor74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is also a great tool out there for removing the bushing from the trailing arm while its still on the car you can do each side in under and hour if all the bolts come out okay. Trust me it is the a great tool and works wonders

here is the one I used
http://shoptoolsshoptools.com/...Tools+</TD></TR></TABLE>

how hard is it to change and use this tool? i was going to pay to have it done, but i'm all for DIY.

 

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how hard is it to change and use this tool? i was going to pay to have it done, but i'm all for DIY.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is very easy. jack the car up from the rear put it on stands make sure you do not block the trailing arm bushing with the jack stand. Next remove the wheel, you have to unbolt the rear upper arm pull the lower shock bolt and the 2 bolts holding the trailing arm bushing to the frame. Mark the trailing arm where the arrow is on the old bushing. Follow the directions for the puller to install it on the arm. Use only a wrench or socket to turn the bolt. Once the bushing is out. line up the new bushing arrow with the mark on the control arm and press it in to the same depth as the OEM bushing. Bolt everything back in place and have the car realigned. Enjoy a . Oh yeah check around I have seen this same tool for a lot less used on ebay I even found it new for $100 with free shipping a while back.

Edit: I did both side in just under 1 hour but everything came apart on mine thank god for anti sieze