The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas
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The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas
Ok, I have been looking and looking and looking...There seems to be no solutions to getting more power out of a D16Y5 motor. I am sure I could put intake and exhaust, but it seem it would be nothing fast out of any of the D series motors. I also realize that this is also the VTECH E. I would love to have as much info about this motor as possible. It is also a manual which I have heard has quite tall gears in it. ECU's are also pain from the 1000's of forums that I have read already. I have also read about the lifters as well, people say this has potential some don't. I am at a loss. So if anyone has any ideas with out swapping please help me out. Thank you in advance
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Happy Gilmore)
that vtec-e motor you have is like the eg's vx motor... if i was u i would swap it.
just dont ask us what swap is best... you have to make up ur
own mind about that. all you need to do is SEARCH
just dont ask us what swap is best... you have to make up ur
own mind about that. all you need to do is SEARCH
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hey i have a hx too, for now the only thing to do to that super slow monster is switch tranny's to a y8 i have a y8 engine in my garage right now being slowly put to together to handle some decant boost, but to do anything to make it faster will be a pain in the ***, , but if you turbo it you might have a little fun, but don't look for any number over 200 on stock internals
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (ridin98civic)
Ok. Sound like a plan, guess I will be saving up for a y8 or B16A2. But a I guess a lil peformance is better than none. Thanks for the quick respond. But hell if I have to. I am sure there is a way, I have will lol. Well thanks for the help guys I will keep ya'll posted...
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Happy Gilmore)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Happy Gilmore »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. Sound like a plan, guess I will be saving up for a y8 or B16A2. But a I guess a lil peformance is better than none. Thanks for the quick respond. But hell if I have to. I am sure there is a way, I have will lol. Well thanks for the help guys I will keep ya'll posted...</TD></TR></TABLE>
NEVER EVER thought i would hear my self say this but boost is the only way with that motor god now i feel sick lol!
but it is the only way!
NEVER EVER thought i would hear my self say this but boost is the only way with that motor god now i feel sick lol!
but it is the only way!
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Richard...)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Richard... »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
NEVER EVER thought i would hear my self say this but boost is the only way with that motor god now i feel sick lol!
but it is the only way!</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha..
d16y5 vtec...e? you should be thinking about mpg instead of mph.
NEVER EVER thought i would hear my self say this but boost is the only way with that motor god now i feel sick lol!
but it is the only way!</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha..
d16y5 vtec...e? you should be thinking about mpg instead of mph.
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (mizzoEG)
I think my old Volvo would be faster than this...lol oh well. I will figure something out. I would like a suggestion of a good motor to use for this then...
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (mizzoEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mizzoEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
haha..
d16y5 vtec...e? you should be thinking about mpg instead of mph. </TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly. with gas prices now everyone wants to make their car "fast". that car was made to save gas. if you want to go fast, buy a V8
oh btw http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=881562
haha..
d16y5 vtec...e? you should be thinking about mpg instead of mph.
</TD></TR></TABLE>exactly. with gas prices now everyone wants to make their car "fast". that car was made to save gas. if you want to go fast, buy a V8
oh btw http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=881562
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (ridin98civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ridin98civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boost it, and swap the y8 transmission on it</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a great motor. There's very little difference between a Y5 and a Y8, so a swap would be pointless. In fact, the Y5 on a Y8 tranny is said to be faster than a Y8/Y8 tranny.
Get yourself a used AEM EMS and find a good tuner.
It's a great motor. There's very little difference between a Y5 and a Y8, so a swap would be pointless. In fact, the Y5 on a Y8 tranny is said to be faster than a Y8/Y8 tranny.
Get yourself a used AEM EMS and find a good tuner.
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (suspendedHatch)
I may go get a 95 civic anyway, i was jsut curious about that motor, besides what the person wanted was rediculous, so I considering that anyway, and it has d16z6 in it which i think i could get some power out of...but i will keep that in mind guys and thanks for the help
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Happy Gilmore)
if you search in the archives, you'll find some good reading material.
to be honest, look into a turbo kit if you are seeking more performance, i have a turbo y5 myself, here is an article from Bense's website, check his website out as well. he has some good info on the y5 there, and just about all d-series for that matter http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/
"I am growing tired of the d16y5 questions that I am seeing arise on honda-tech. So this will be the last time I will try to explain.
If you have a d16y5, it is basically a d16y8. The MAIN difference is the cam + rockers. Swapping from a d16y5 to a d16y8 is more hassle than it's worth. If I wanted more power out of my d16y5, here's what I'd do. Block modifications are going to be identical to the d16y8, so I will not bother covering this. If you boost, use arp head studs, blah blah blah. I'm not here to cover the obvious.
I would mail crower my cam for a regrind, crower has already said that they can do a regrind of this cam. I would then put a d16y8 intake manifold on it to get rid of the egr. I say d16y8 intake manifold because you can find a bare one for like $50 and all your sensors will bolt up to it. Or just keep your y5 intake manifold, it doesn't matter that much. Or get the skunk2 or edelbrock one. you won't be able to find an obd1 equivalent ecu, so don't even bother trying to find it. Nor will you be able to pull the maps off the d16y5 ecu.
Your best bet is going to be to build the head (same as y8 style) and send your cam to crower to get a regrind. You will need a custom tune to do this. So find a tuner that is very experienced with tuning d16y8s. Again, it is basically a y8, just slightly different. Have VTEC engage at like 2800-3000"
[edit] ignore the misinformation that is so commonly shared, as suspendedhatch has said already, the y5 and y8 are nearly identical.
also, dont bother swapping anything off of the y5 minus the intake manifold, ditch the egr. pick up a y8 manifold
to be honest, look into a turbo kit if you are seeking more performance, i have a turbo y5 myself, here is an article from Bense's website, check his website out as well. he has some good info on the y5 there, and just about all d-series for that matter http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/
"I am growing tired of the d16y5 questions that I am seeing arise on honda-tech. So this will be the last time I will try to explain.
If you have a d16y5, it is basically a d16y8. The MAIN difference is the cam + rockers. Swapping from a d16y5 to a d16y8 is more hassle than it's worth. If I wanted more power out of my d16y5, here's what I'd do. Block modifications are going to be identical to the d16y8, so I will not bother covering this. If you boost, use arp head studs, blah blah blah. I'm not here to cover the obvious.
I would mail crower my cam for a regrind, crower has already said that they can do a regrind of this cam. I would then put a d16y8 intake manifold on it to get rid of the egr. I say d16y8 intake manifold because you can find a bare one for like $50 and all your sensors will bolt up to it. Or just keep your y5 intake manifold, it doesn't matter that much. Or get the skunk2 or edelbrock one. you won't be able to find an obd1 equivalent ecu, so don't even bother trying to find it. Nor will you be able to pull the maps off the d16y5 ecu.
Your best bet is going to be to build the head (same as y8 style) and send your cam to crower to get a regrind. You will need a custom tune to do this. So find a tuner that is very experienced with tuning d16y8s. Again, it is basically a y8, just slightly different. Have VTEC engage at like 2800-3000"
[edit] ignore the misinformation that is so commonly shared, as suspendedhatch has said already, the y5 and y8 are nearly identical.
also, dont bother swapping anything off of the y5 minus the intake manifold, ditch the egr. pick up a y8 manifold
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (EJ8 944)
I have heard about the similarities between the Y5 and Y8. But doesn't the VTEC on the Y5 basically just switch between 12 valve and 16 valve operation? If so, then it would seem that you would AT LEAST want to swap over the cams and rocker arms from the Y8.
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (suspendedHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> In fact, the Y5 on a Y8 tranny is said to be faster than a Y8/Y8 tranny.
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No.
You have it a little off.
They say say HX coupes with Y8 (Y5eng/Y8trans)trannys are faster than EX coupes(Y8/Y8).
Thats nothing to do with the motor. Weight difference on the two is big, and the power of motor negligible at 12 HP.
You think a EX would somehow be faster than it was stock if you put a HX motor it...? Or that an HX would be slower with an EX motor...?
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No.
You have it a little off.
They say say HX coupes with Y8 (Y5eng/Y8trans)trannys are faster than EX coupes(Y8/Y8).
Thats nothing to do with the motor. Weight difference on the two is big, and the power of motor negligible at 12 HP.
You think a EX would somehow be faster than it was stock if you put a HX motor it...? Or that an HX would be slower with an EX motor...?
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (StorminMatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have heard about the similarities between the Y5 and Y8. But doesn't the VTEC on the Y5 basically just switch between 12 valve and 16 valve operation? If so, then it would seem that you would AT LEAST want to swap over the cams and rocker arms from the Y8.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it'd be so much work for sub par results. the y5 head has roller rockers , just get a regrind on the stock cam. crower has already stated they can do this.
it'd be so much work for sub par results. the y5 head has roller rockers
, just get a regrind on the stock cam. crower has already stated they can do this.
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Rude Awakening)
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No.
You have it a little off.
They say say HX coupes with Y8 (Y5eng/Y8trans)trannys are faster than EX coupes(Y8/Y8).
Thats nothing to do with the motor. Weight difference on the two is big, and the power of motor negligible at 12 HP.
You think a EX would somehow be faster than it was stock if you put a HX motor it...? Or that an HX would be slower with an EX motor...?</TD></TR></TABLE>
this has been covered before, looks here for more info: http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/2006/09/06/
No.
You have it a little off.
They say say HX coupes with Y8 (Y5eng/Y8trans)trannys are faster than EX coupes(Y8/Y8).
Thats nothing to do with the motor. Weight difference on the two is big, and the power of motor negligible at 12 HP.
You think a EX would somehow be faster than it was stock if you put a HX motor it...? Or that an HX would be slower with an EX motor...?</TD></TR></TABLE>
this has been covered before, looks here for more info: http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/2006/09/06/
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (EJ8 944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8 944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
this has been covered before, looks here for more info: http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/2006/09/06/</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesnt tell you why a Y5 with a Y8 tranny is faster than a full Y8 setup. Compares D16B5/Y8/Y5 basically.
Im trying to tell you that if I put a Y8 tranny on my car which is an HX (RIP to female driver last week) it will be faster than a stock EX. But it is not because the motor is stronger, its because the car is lighter.
I guarantee you that putting an HX motor in a EX coupe, keeping the Y8 tranny will be be slower than stock. Y5/Y8 combo
Lastly both times I had a car hit, a female driver was at fault. They all need their licenses revoked.
This is my last post. I can't believe I'm wasting my time on a SOHC thread.
this has been covered before, looks here for more info: http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/2006/09/06/</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesnt tell you why a Y5 with a Y8 tranny is faster than a full Y8 setup. Compares D16B5/Y8/Y5 basically.
Im trying to tell you that if I put a Y8 tranny on my car which is an HX (RIP to female driver last week) it will be faster than a stock EX. But it is not because the motor is stronger, its because the car is lighter.
I guarantee you that putting an HX motor in a EX coupe, keeping the Y8 tranny will be be slower than stock. Y5/Y8 combo
Lastly both times I had a car hit, a female driver was at fault. They all need their licenses revoked.
This is my last post. I can't believe I'm wasting my time on a SOHC thread.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by homemadeturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a Y5 head on a Z6 block turboed. The Y5 head responds beautifully to boost and I have it stay in 12 valve mode unless I am at full throttle. I get 35 mpg city and 43 mpg highway.</TD></TR></TABLE>
tell me more about your setup please.... what ECU are you running? how much HP does the setup make? is this in an HX?
I am always interested to see what people are doing with the vtec-e head
tell me more about your setup please.... what ECU are you running? how much HP does the setup make? is this in an HX?
I am always interested to see what people are doing with the vtec-e head
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Rude Awakening)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It doesnt tell you why a Y5 with a Y8 tranny is faster than a full Y8 setup. Compares D16B5/Y8/Y5 basically.
Im trying to tell you that if I put a Y8 tranny on my car which is an HX (RIP to female driver last week) it will be faster than a stock EX. But it is not because the motor is stronger, its because the car is lighter.
I guarantee you that putting an HX motor in a EX coupe, keeping the Y8 tranny will be be slower than stock. Y5/Y8 combo
Lastly both times I had a car hit, a female driver was at fault. They all need their licenses revoked.
This is my last post. I can't believe I'm wasting my time on a SOHC thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my mistake on the link, ill need to scavenge around to find the right one if anyone cares to even see it at this point, give me some time.
dont want to turn this into a y8 vs y5 thread...
It doesnt tell you why a Y5 with a Y8 tranny is faster than a full Y8 setup. Compares D16B5/Y8/Y5 basically.
Im trying to tell you that if I put a Y8 tranny on my car which is an HX (RIP to female driver last week) it will be faster than a stock EX. But it is not because the motor is stronger, its because the car is lighter.
I guarantee you that putting an HX motor in a EX coupe, keeping the Y8 tranny will be be slower than stock. Y5/Y8 combo
Lastly both times I had a car hit, a female driver was at fault. They all need their licenses revoked.
This is my last post. I can't believe I'm wasting my time on a SOHC thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my mistake on the link, ill need to scavenge around to find the right one if anyone cares to even see it at this point, give me some time.
dont want to turn this into a y8 vs y5 thread...
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (EJ8 944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8 944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it'd be so much work for sub par results. the y5 head has roller rockers , just get a regrind on the stock cam. crower has already stated they can do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then again, can you REALLY make VTEC-E work like ordinary VTEC? As I understand things, VTEC-E simply switches to four valve operation from three valve operation at some point, rather than operating all four valves at all times, and switching to a larger cam lobe at some point. And I'm not sure it would be THAT easy to convert the D16Y5 head from VTEC-E operation to ordinary VTEC operation.
it'd be so much work for sub par results. the y5 head has roller rockers
, just get a regrind on the stock cam. crower has already stated they can do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>Then again, can you REALLY make VTEC-E work like ordinary VTEC? As I understand things, VTEC-E simply switches to four valve operation from three valve operation at some point, rather than operating all four valves at all times, and switching to a larger cam lobe at some point. And I'm not sure it would be THAT easy to convert the D16Y5 head from VTEC-E operation to ordinary VTEC operation.
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Happy Gilmore)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Happy Gilmore »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. Sound like a plan, guess I will be saving up for a y8 or B16A2. But a I guess a lil peformance is better than none. Thanks for the quick respond. But hell if I have to. I am sure there is a way, I have will lol. Well thanks for the help guys I will keep ya'll posted... </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're going to spend the $$$ on a B-Series swap, then get a B18C1.
If you're going to spend the $$$ on a B-Series swap, then get a B18C1.
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Re: The lovely D16Y5, Any Ideas (Rude Awakening)
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Nice attitude.
Nice attitude.
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Im trying to tell you that if I put a Y8 tranny on my car which is an HX it will be faster than a stock EX. But it is not because the motor is stronger, its because the car is lighter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well that, plus its only about an 12hp diffrence. The fat *** EX still get its *** ****d.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is my last post. I can't believe I'm wasting my time on a SOHC thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Narrow mineded people like you. Go play your wii. 
Im trying to tell you that if I put a Y8 tranny on my car which is an HX it will be faster than a stock EX. But it is not because the motor is stronger, its because the car is lighter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well that, plus its only about an 12hp diffrence. The fat *** EX still get its *** ****d.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is my last post. I can't believe I'm wasting my time on a SOHC thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Narrow mineded people like you.
Go play your wii.