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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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im thinking of buying a b16 and putting ctr cams and pistons in it... or should i just get a gsr??? anyone knows about both??
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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no replacement for displacement, get the GSR
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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Get the GSR.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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b16 all the way...gsr is over rated!!!...i have a b16a2 and always take gsr's by atleast a fender all day...
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1jdmek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 all the way...gsr is over rated!!!...i have a b16a2 and always take gsr's by atleast a fender all day... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont see how that could be when a gsr clearly has more hp and tq than your b16a2. Ok so maybe you've beat a GSR...big deal. The facts don't lie...the GSR is the superior motor. Don't let this turn into another one of those b16 bashing threads but seriously, to say that the b16a2 is going to be beating GSR's all day long is just stupid.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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gsr. if u get the b16 ull regret it in a week.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1jdmek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 all the way...gsr is over rated!!!...i have a b16a2 and always take gsr's by atleast a fender all day... </TD></TR></TABLE>


B16 in your coupe? and your beating stock GSR integras?

if you have a DX coupe with a swapped..i guess i could see it but line up a bonestock 00 civic SI and a 00 GSR..

i got 100 to 1 the GSR pulls away

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1jdmek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 all the way...gsr is over rated!!!...i have a b16a2 and always take gsr's by atleast a fender all day... </TD></TR></TABLE>

same here

gsr is weak. but more displacement. better for modifyig

gsr is over rated
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16a4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

same here

gsr is weak. but more displacement. better for modifyig

gsr is over rated</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a b16 and I'm still defending the gsr. How is it weak? If I had the extra cash I would've gotten a gsr, but I didn't. Ok here let me clear it up for you.

B16a2 HP: 160
TQ: 111

B18C1 HP: 170
TQ: 128

The choice is pretty obvious. If you have the money get the better engine.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:58 AM
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just get you a b16a and end all this camotion . thats what i have on my eg hatch.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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how about GSR bottom end with b16 head, 11:1 compression and ctr cams? hell of a combination. Best of both worlds: better flowing head, higher displacement block. *drools*
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaon18’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just get you a b16a and end all this camotion . thats what i have on my eg hatch. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well that's what I have too. But he's pretty much asking which would be better.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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i have a b16a and i do w00p alot of gsr ***.

the b16 has better gearing and a higher redline.
so on the 1/4 it is faster than a gsr. stock for stock.

i am turbo charging my b16a. i think it will be more streetable than a b18 turbo
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16a4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a b16a and i do w00p alot of gsr ***.

the b16 has better gearing and a higher redline.
so on the 1/4 it is faster than a gsr. stock for stock.

i am turbo charging my b16a. i think it will be more streetable than a b18 turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe the redline is the same. And the gearing is ever so slightly different. Nothing that's going to win you a race. FYI.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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yep my little hatch with the b16a alot more faster then gsr. and i havent even messed with my headers and exhaust yet. so i would go with a b16a. also it would depend on what you going to drop it in.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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the redline is not the same

and the gearing does make a difference.

every little bit counts.

i did 151whp on my stock b16a with intake and exhaust. stock headers.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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i did 15.2 with my SiR.

4 doors, sunroof. powered seats, fully powered, fully loaded.

i say 2880lbs. / 151whp

= 15.2
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaon18’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep my little hatch with the b16a alot more faster then gsr. and i havent even messed with my headers and exhaust yet. so i would go with a b16a. also it would depend on what you going to drop it in. </TD></TR></TABLE>

And that could definitely have to do with the weight of your hatch. Put a gsr in your hatch and it's going to be quicker than it is with the b16.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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expletive that, do more with your money.

b18b + turbo for ~gsr price.

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16a4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the redline is not the same

and the gearing does make a difference.

every little bit counts.

i did 151whp on my stock b16a with intake and exhaust. stock headers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

B16a2 redline, 8200. B18c1 redline, at least 8, if not 8200. Really, no difference. You can't tell me that if you took off your b16 tranny and put on a gsr tranny that you would see a noticable difference in performance.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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b18c1 w gsr trans &gt; b16 with b16 trans

b18c1 w b16 trans &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; b16 with b16 trans
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18c1 w gsr trans &gt; b16 with b16 trans

b18c1 w b16 trans &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; b16 with b16 trans</TD></TR></TABLE>

And there we have it.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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yeah of course with a b18 i fly to the moon cause of more power. but a b16a in my hatch is enough for now . i was wondering what kind of exhaust do you have on your b16a and headers . cause im looking for some but i cant decide witch one would be best.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaon18’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah of course with a b18 i fly to the moon cause of more power. but a b16a in my hatch is enough for now . i was wondering what kind of exhaust do you have on your b16a and headers . cause im looking for some but i cant decide witch one would be best. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure if you're talking to me. But mine is just stock. I have stock exhaust and the stock header.
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