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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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well I failed emissions and someone suggested lookin at the injectors or getting them flow tested. So I went out and took them off the car for the first time ever since the b16a swap and I was suprized to find these.....

that one seems normal^^

this one is f'ed in the A.^^

this one is cracked ^^^

and this one is probably the best one^^

my question is would these make the car run rich? I dont know much about them or how to test if they are with an OHM meter but any info would be appreciated. What new injectors would you all recommend for a bolt on b16? Simply replace them with stock or go with something like RC's? thanks
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Isnt there different parts to the emissions test? What part did you fail? Those broken tips may affect spray pattern but i doubt any affect on air/fuel.
I had injectors like that and just pulled all the plastic tips off so they wouldn't fall into the cylinder if they broke. Worked fine for me.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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I failed hydrocarbons. limit was 220 ppm and I had 349 ppm
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Is it tuned or are you running stock ecu on narrowband? Your cat might be clogged? It looks like you have 3 different types of fuel injectors. Might need to see what they are flowing at. Theres a lot of things you could check from fuel pressure to spark plugs and all that stuff.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Your injectors are probably only cosmetically damaged.
I would source a cheap used set of oem sohc/dohc 240cc honda saturated injectors to replace the ones you have now.

Concerning the reason you are running over-rich, are you throwing any codes ?
You should inspect your intake air temperature sensor, if the tip of the sensor is melted or deformed, your harness connectors are mixed up....
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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no codes, stock virgin pr3 ecu, ngk plugs which show no signs of anything bad. mtber, do you have the stock injectors I need? if so pm me. thanks. I can take pictures of the spark plugs if that will help?
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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what cams are you running? A friend of mine failed similarly with S2 cams on idle I got his car to pass by pulling as much FP as I could in the parking lot passed with flying colors and turned it back up around the corner
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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what would happen if they fell into the cylinders??
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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prolly melt and get on your pistons/ inbetween your valves. ^^ but nah.. stock cams... stock engine besides I/H/E
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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well i checked my timing and I thin kit was advanced a little much so a set it right to the black mark to the left of the red mark. I also adjusted my idle speed down to about 750 instead of the 1000 it was at before. I believe these things should help.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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from the color alone, it looks like you have three different types of injectors..
my obd1 240cc injectors look like the one in picture number 4. PM me if you need them.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Could a dirty old O2 sensor cause that? It could be reading lean causing to ecu to richen it up a bit.
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