hey i got a b20 swap in my hatch the other day i was messin with the radio next thing u know i try starting it **** didnt start it turns over but i cant figure out the problem i pulled out a spark plug wire seem like im not getting any spark i changed the internal coil,rotor and cap still dont start can any one help...can it also be with my ecu?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e-g-6jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i got a b20 swap in my hatch the other day i was messin with the radio next thing u know i try starting it **** didnt start it turns over but i cant figure out the problem i pulled out a spark plug wire seem like im not getting any spark i changed the internal coil,rotor and cap still dont start can any one help...can it also be with my ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Messing with the radio and now it won't start? What, you mean like station tuning or something?

You probably screwed up your frangulator, try calibrating it again and see what happens.

John

 

whats a frangulator? mybad im kinda new to the whole swap i was taking out the radio so i can take out my dash im not sure if a wire touched an if it did would it have any thing to do with the ignition?

 

hahaha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aodhan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Messing with the radio and now it won't start? What, you mean like station tuning or something?

You probably screwed up your frangulator, try calibrating it again and see what happens.

John</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh ****, I hope he didn't mess up the frangulator, that **** is expensive as hell.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aodhan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Messing with the radio and now it won't start? What, you mean like station tuning or something?

You probably screwed up your frangulator, try calibrating it again and see what happens.

John</TD></TR></TABLE>ooof the frangulator...big bucks. good thing it wasnt the perpetuator valve

 

For fuuck's sake the guy needs real help, and yet for some reason it's all fun and games to make fun of the guy, but still not try and help him? Man that's really cool guys! Are you making fun of him to mask the fact that you have no fuucking clue how to fix the problem? Good idea! Oh wait...people see right through that ****.



Original poster:

First of all "frangulator" is some made up non existant part they're posting about to mess with you. It's funny sort-of, but the fact that nobody has posted any actual help bothers me.

Before you swap any more parts out you need to start checking fuses. If you were "messing" with the radio chances are there's a bare wire back there somewhere that grounded or shorted out, and popped a fuse. Check the wiring behind the stereo, tape up any exposed copper/wires, and then check your fuses in the under hood fuse box, and under dash box.

It's entirely possible that you popped a fuse that is basically like unplugging the ECU - the engine will spin over, but not start, and may lack fuel, spark, or both.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For fuuck's sake the guy needs real help, and yet for some reason it's all fun and games to make fun of the guy, but still not try and help him? Man that's really cool guys! Are you making fun of him to mask the fact that you have no fuucking clue how to fix the problem? Good idea! Oh wait...people see right through that ****.



First of all "frangulator" is some made up non existant part they're posting about to mess with you. It's funny sort-of, but the fact that nobody has posted any actual help bothers me.

Before you swap any more parts out you need to start checking fuses. If you were "messing" with the radio chances are there's a bare wire back there somewhere thatgrounded or shorted out and popped a fuse. Check the wiring behind the stereo, tape up any exposed copper/wires, and then check your fuses in the under hood fuse box, and under dash box.

It's entirely possible that you popped a fuse that is basically like unplugging the ECU - the engine will spin over, but not start, and may lack fuel, spark, or both.</TD></TR></TABLE>ill admit i dont know what the hell hes talking about when it comes to his car. and if a frangulator or perpetuating valve were to exist they would be really expensive to change, i dont care what kind of honda their driving!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before you swap any more parts out you need to start checking fuses. If you were "messing" with the radio chances are there's a bare wire back there somewhere thatgrounded or shorted out and popped a fuse. Check the wiring behind the stereo, tape up any exposed copper/wires, and then check your fuses in the under hood fuse box, and under dash box.

It's entirely possible that you popped a fuse that is basically like unplugging the ECU - the engine will spin over, but not start, and may lack fuel, spark, or both.</TD></TR></TABLE> You can do resistance test with a DVOM to try and find out whats going on. http://www.alldata.com will help with electrical diagrams and what fuses run what. I wouldnt suggest just replacing parts to try and fix it, you will waste alot of time and money, and you still might not find the source of the problem. You can rent a DVOM from Autozone I believe. Could be something as simple as a bad ground to a blown fuse, you may not have to replace any "hard" parts. Good luck and keep us updated.

 

Even with little/no electrical knowledge anyone can pull fuses and look through them to see if they are blown or not.

I could go into details about how to use a test light or multi-meter, etc. but in this case it may not be necessary.

 

thats really funny making fun of the new guy im pulling my hair out of my head like wtf is a frangulator.....the fuses all seem to be fine imma double check anyway

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e-g-6jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats really funny making fun of the new guy im pulling my hair out of my head like wtf is a frangulator.....the fuses all seem to be fine imma double check anyway </TD></TR></TABLE>

You know on second thought you really might want to grab a test light and check fuses, because I've seen a few fuses look fine, but actually were blown and even checked good on one side with a test light.

It does help to know which fuses do what though, because some fuses won't light up anyways unless you're using that function, such as headlight fuse won't light up unless you using headlights, etc.

Check the large "main" fuses in the under hood fuse box too.

I don't think you've got a coincidence that you messed with the radio wires and now the car won't start. I'd be willing to bet money it's a fuse issue.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e-g-6jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pulling my hair out of my head like wtf is a frangulator.....</TD></TR></TABLE> A lil fun never hurt anyone. Is there anything else on the car that was operating funny before you messed with the radio?

 

thats what i did i checked all the fuses with the test light they all light up

 

Does the check engine light pop on when you turn the key into the "on" position, then go out as the main relay clicks under the dash?

If the light stays on then you've got an ECU or fuse issue.

If the light goes off, but you don't hear the "click" from the main relay then you probably need a main relay.

Have you check for fuel pressure yet? Crack the banjo bolt on to of your fuel filter loose and turn the ignition key on quickly - does any fuel spray out? You might want a hand to check this out...

 

the only thing that i can recall is that it kinda bogs when it idles not to bad just a lil bit

 

i was gonna say double check your fuses. that was my initial thought

 

just be happy no1 told you to check your blinker fluid or your flex capacitor...did you check the big fuses under the hood the ones being held down by 2 screws??? i blew one of those once messing with the radio wiring. GL

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e-g-6jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only thing that i can recall is that it kinda bogs when it idles not to bad just a lil bit </TD></TR></TABLE> Did you take it to a shop to have the swap done?

 

I bought the car with the swap already in for 1500 just needed lil work all I did was the body work the car ran pretty strong...I bought starter fluid an sprayed it in the trottle body then I tried starting it seems like its trying to start but it won't when I don't spray the starter fluid it would just turn over do u think I'm not getting fuel? Can it be the injectors?

 

Hi i have a b20b non vtec swap in my honda balland 1999 or 2000. my car carnk but wont start I have a 9 wire dizzy
(9 wire colour dizzy)
: orange
​​​​ ; white
: Yellow/green
; black/yellow
; blue/green
; Blue/yellow
; orange/blue
; White/blue
; Blue
Then i have 7 wires from my loom
Colours
:yellow/green
:black/yellow
:yellow/black
;blue
orange/blue
;brown/black
​​;Black
i need help with this please