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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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I'm going to be buying a set of 17" Enkei rims with some 205/40/17's on them.

My car was lowered by previous owner... I have no idea how much (in inches) he lowered it.

I was wondering if these tires/rims will fit on the car, or.... how low my car COULD be lowered before these wouldn't fit.

i.e. Lowered 3" = Wheels will fit. ---- Lowered 4" = Wheel wills not fit.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Wheel size after lowering? (Platinum.Skillz)

the wheels will fit but beware of rubbing... and your gearing will be way off.. all sizes of 17" tires are too large for that chassis.

anyway, if you still want the 17" then maybe remove the plastics and/or roll your fenders up slightly to avoid the rubbing .

i recommend 15" or at the most, 16", for your car....and so will many others.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Cool, I honestly didn't know that.

I think I might go with 16's then... I really want something that will fill my tire well up nicely. That's why I was headed towards the 17's.

I don't want to do anything crazily extensive just to put tires on my car.

If I get 16's is it still possible to have the car lowered?

EDIT:
Wait a second... My friend told me he has a 2000 Civic SI with 17 inch rims on it. He has no rubbing though.


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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Platinum.Skillz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I get 16's is it still possible to have the car lowered?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can lower the car if you want. The best approach, if you want to lower the car, is to do so using the suspension (usually, the springs). I recommend lowering it no more than 2".

Get 205/40-16 tires. They shouldn't rub, and they won't significantly change the ride height of your car from the stock tires. (The difference is less than 0.1".)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Platinum.Skillz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait a second... My friend told me he has a 2000 Civic SI with 17 inch rims on it. He has no rubbing though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's because the '97-00 Civics all came from the factory with larger wheels and tires than the pre-'96 Civics. The 205/40-17 tire size is the same outer diameter as your friend's stock tire size, but it's much larger than your stock tire size.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Niiiiiccceee... Thank you very muh.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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17s are going to look huge on there. it will look like a toy car. you should do 15 or 16 and put that bitch in the weeds!!!
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can lower the car if you want. The best approach, if you want to lower the car, is to do so using the suspension (usually, the springs). I recommend lowering it no more than 2".

Get 205/40-16 tires. They shouldn't rub, and they won't significantly change the ride height of your car from the stock tires. (The difference is less than 0.1".)

That's because the '97-00 Civics all came from the factory with larger wheels and tires than the pre-'96 Civics. The 205/40-17 tire size is the same outer diameter as your friend's stock tire size, but it's much larger than your stock tire size.
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i've actually ran 16inch slips on 205/40/16's and i rubbed like crazy, at the time i was lowered 2.0-2.5inchs all around though. rolling your fenders should do the job though. i'd really suggest running 15's....
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Well, before I get my rims... I'm buying adjustable coilovers.

So I plan on put them on, then lowering as needed.

So if I went with 16's... Would 205/40/16's work?

And if I go down to 15's... What tire size should I get?


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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've actually ran 16inch slips on 205/40/16's and i rubbed like crazy, at the time i was lowered 2.0-2.5inchs all around though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The rubbing was because you were lowered so much, not because of the tire size.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rolling your fenders should do the job though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or don't lower your car more than 2".

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Platinum.Skillz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if I went with 16's... Would 205/40/16's work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Platinum.Skillz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And if I go down to 15's... What tire size should I get?</TD></TR></TABLE>

195/50-15.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Platinum.Skillz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, before I get my rims... I'm buying adjustable coilovers.

So I plan on put them on, then lowering as needed.

So if I went with 16's... Would 205/40/16's work?

And if I go down to 15's... What tire size should I get?


Modified by Platinum.Skillz at 3:36 PM 10/25/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you want a little better ride. i think you could go to a 205/45R16. i had those on my civic and i was lowered 2.25 front and 2.5 rear. very little rubbing. but nsxtasy is the wheel and tire man this guy knows what he is talking about. that is just my experince. good luck with what ever you do. keeep us posted.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pynikal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want a little better ride. i think you could go to a 205/45R16. i had those on my civic</TD></TR></TABLE>

It depends on the year. For pre-'96 Civics (and '96 hatch and DX versions), 205/40-16 is a better match. For '97-00 Civics (and all other '96 versions), the 205/45-16 is a better match.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Wheel size after lowering? (nsxtasy)

it was a 97.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pynikal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it was a 97.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's why 205/45-16 makes sense for your '97, but 205/40-16 makes sense for his '93.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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is it the wheel wells or is it just how the car sets??
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Well, I think I've settled.

16" Enkei RS-5's on 205/40/R16's.

From what I can measure myself, they should fit perfectly with how much my car is currently lowered. If not, I'm getting the coilovers, so I'll be good.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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post pics when you get them on!!
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Will do.

It'll be near the end of November.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pynikal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it the wheel wells or is it just how the car sets??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Choosing the size that best matches the stock outer diameter has lots of benefits - it gives you better clearance in the wheel wells, reduces the chances of rubbing, maintains the ride height (compared with the stock tire size, so you can use the suspension to lower the car if you like), maintains the accuracy of the speedometer and odometer, etc.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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not to thread jack or anything but i got a 93 civic sedan and am looking at some 15x8 w/5.5 rear spacing. with 19545r15tires with drop. will that work?????
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