b16 vs. b17 vs. grs head
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Re: b16 vs. b17 vs. grs head (***$nyper)
i got this off another blog.......
the b17 has 117lb torque, b16 has 111 lb torque same horse power 160... but the funny thing is this: b17 u will find in the 92 -93 integra gsr ok cool... now if u race a 99-2000 si with low mileage against a 92-93 gsr who u think it wins i will leave it up to u putos... guessssss???? write it dont be shy. http://www.TeamImportsRus.com nyc baby...
the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH
to clear things up. the head on the b17, b16 and type r b18c5 are identical. only difference is on type r there is port and quench work done. all three heads will accept the type R intake.
the b18c1 head from a gsr is totally different. different intake and bolt holes are in different places which is why skunk2 makes a type r intake for b18c1 head.
how do i know this? i have a gsr, my bro has a gen2 gsr b17 (which is way sweet)... but i still smoke him.
these are all from different people!
the b17 has 117lb torque, b16 has 111 lb torque same horse power 160... but the funny thing is this: b17 u will find in the 92 -93 integra gsr ok cool... now if u race a 99-2000 si with low mileage against a 92-93 gsr who u think it wins i will leave it up to u putos... guessssss???? write it dont be shy. http://www.TeamImportsRus.com nyc baby...
the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH
to clear things up. the head on the b17, b16 and type r b18c5 are identical. only difference is on type r there is port and quench work done. all three heads will accept the type R intake.
the b18c1 head from a gsr is totally different. different intake and bolt holes are in different places which is why skunk2 makes a type r intake for b18c1 head.
how do i know this? i have a gsr, my bro has a gen2 gsr b17 (which is way sweet)... but i still smoke him.
these are all from different people!
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Re: b16 vs. b17 vs. grs head (kurruptedkustoms666)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurruptedkustoms666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got this off another blog.......
the b17 has 117lb torque, b16 has 111 lb torque same horse power 160... but the funny thing is this: b17 u will find in the 92 -93 integra gsr ok cool... now if u race a 99-2000 si with low mileage against a 92-93 gsr who u think it wins i will leave it up to u putos... guessssss???? write it dont be shy. http://www.TeamImportsRus.com nyc baby...
the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH
to clear things up. the head on the b17, b16 and type r b18c5 are identical. only difference is on type r there is port and quench work done. all three heads will accept the type R intake.
the b18c1 head from a gsr is totally different. different intake and bolt holes are in different places which is why skunk2 makes a type r intake for b18c1 head.
how do i know this? i have a gsr, my bro has a gen2 gsr b17 (which is way sweet)... but i still smoke him.
these are all from different people!</TD></TR></TABLE> wow.....
This is why you take everything you read on the net with a grain of salt.
the b17 has 117lb torque, b16 has 111 lb torque same horse power 160... but the funny thing is this: b17 u will find in the 92 -93 integra gsr ok cool... now if u race a 99-2000 si with low mileage against a 92-93 gsr who u think it wins i will leave it up to u putos... guessssss???? write it dont be shy. http://www.TeamImportsRus.com nyc baby...
the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH
to clear things up. the head on the b17, b16 and type r b18c5 are identical. only difference is on type r there is port and quench work done. all three heads will accept the type R intake.
the b18c1 head from a gsr is totally different. different intake and bolt holes are in different places which is why skunk2 makes a type r intake for b18c1 head.
how do i know this? i have a gsr, my bro has a gen2 gsr b17 (which is way sweet)... but i still smoke him.
these are all from different people!</TD></TR></TABLE> wow.....
This is why you take everything you read on the net with a grain of salt.
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Re: b16 vs. b17 vs. grs head (kurruptedkustoms666)
b17 is a stroked b16. same block, same head. it's just what the US got instead of the b16 in the DA integras. heads are both pr3 castings (as is the Type R). GSR head has a few differences in combustion chamber volume, intake manifold pattern, and slight differences in port angle and volume.
which one is better?
I think you should try searching on HT. There's a ton of GOOD information here. not like what you've found elsewhere
which one is better?
I think you should try searching on HT. There's a ton of GOOD information here. not like what you've found elsewhere
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Re: b16 vs. b17 vs. grs head (kurruptedkustoms666)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurruptedkustoms666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got this off another blog.......
the b17 has 117lb torque, b16 has 111 lb torque same horse power 160... but the funny thing is this: b17 u will find in the 92 -93 integra gsr ok cool... now if u race a 99-2000 si with low mileage against a 92-93 gsr who u think it wins i will leave it up to u putos... guessssss???? write it dont be shy. http://www.TeamImportsRus.com nyc baby...
the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH
to clear things up. the head on the b17, b16 and type r b18c5 are identical. only difference is on type r there is port and quench work done. all three heads will accept the type R intake.
the b18c1 head from a gsr is totally different. different intake and bolt holes are in different places which is why skunk2 makes a type r intake for b18c1 head.
how do i know this? i have a gsr, my bro has a gen2 gsr b17 (which is way sweet)... but i still smoke him.
these are all from different people!</TD></TR></TABLE>
FILLED WITH INCORRECT INFORMATION!!!!
the last paragraph is the only one with decent information although vague.
the b17 has 117lb torque, b16 has 111 lb torque same horse power 160... but the funny thing is this: b17 u will find in the 92 -93 integra gsr ok cool... now if u race a 99-2000 si with low mileage against a 92-93 gsr who u think it wins i will leave it up to u putos... guessssss???? write it dont be shy. http://www.TeamImportsRus.com nyc baby...
the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH
to clear things up. the head on the b17, b16 and type r b18c5 are identical. only difference is on type r there is port and quench work done. all three heads will accept the type R intake.
the b18c1 head from a gsr is totally different. different intake and bolt holes are in different places which is why skunk2 makes a type r intake for b18c1 head.
how do i know this? i have a gsr, my bro has a gen2 gsr b17 (which is way sweet)... but i still smoke him.
these are all from different people!</TD></TR></TABLE>
FILLED WITH INCORRECT INFORMATION!!!!
the last paragraph is the only one with decent information although vague.
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Re: b16 vs. b17 vs. grs head (kurruptedkustoms666)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurruptedkustoms666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i need to know which one would be better to run on my b18 i have heard a lot of stuff about these and its a really hard decesion</TD></TR></TABLE>
the cheapist. seriously. power difference is going to be minimal, so might as well save some money to put towards some bolt-ons. some like the gsr and some like b16/itr heads. now if you want the absolute best b series vtec head, get the b16b head, and spend a hell of alot of money.
the cheapist. seriously. power difference is going to be minimal, so might as well save some money to put towards some bolt-ons. some like the gsr and some like b16/itr heads. now if you want the absolute best b series vtec head, get the b16b head, and spend a hell of alot of money.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the b16a head is a little better than the b17 but not by that much. the only pro to that is with the b16 head you use a type R intake manifold. rods are going to be different because the b17 is of course a 1.7 compared to the b16's 1.6. pistons are interchangeable jus like all B-series minus the b20. and if your talking about a JR supercharger then it wont bolt right on and i dont know if modifications will be possible. HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Type R intake manifold DOES fit on a b17 and IMO the b17 would be the best for either LSV, GSR, and Type R motor if those 3 heads are your only options.
Im also pretty sure that all of the B series pistons are NOT interchangeable. Not directly anyways...
The Type R intake manifold DOES fit on a b17 and IMO the b17 would be the best for either LSV, GSR, and Type R motor if those 3 heads are your only options.
Im also pretty sure that all of the B series pistons are NOT interchangeable. Not directly anyways...
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Re: (Hanmin)
why don't you just search and make up your own mind instead of trying to get everyone else to make it up for you. you are A TOTAL TOOLSHED! you asking if you should put a b17 head on your vehicle should be proof enough that you have no idea what you are talking about. i hope this thread gets locked ASAP. these stupid questions from kids who are never going to do a swap are very aggravating and clog up the boards for people who are here to learn, not ask stupid questions because they don't know how to read! CRXTOAD... lock this thread please so it can go away and never come back. THANKS!!! 
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well little did you know i was asking opinions and its obivous you have yours and also i have done sooo many swaps i cant even count on my digits. but thanks for your input even though you just talk about people you dont know a thing about. as for the rest of you thank you for your input and it was a simple question on which head i should put on my b18a1 block...
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Re: (kurruptedkustoms666)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurruptedkustoms666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i have done sooo many swaps i cant even count on my digits. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurruptedkustoms666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98 CRX HF
blitz bodykit, greddy exhaust, 17" motegi rims, zexus rubber
currently building b18a1 with a brian crower stroker kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, NO.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurruptedkustoms666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98 CRX HF
blitz bodykit, greddy exhaust, 17" motegi rims, zexus rubber
currently building b18a1 with a brian crower stroker kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, NO.
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