I finally got my RSX-S and well it 's not as quick as I thought. I love the car, love how it looks but I just thought it would be a huge improvement over my old Accord.With peolple praising the K series the way they do. I gotta admit its not much over the H22. And damn the VTEC seems too lofty at 5500rpm's it should engage at around 5k or so. Well my next step is K-pro. Hopefully that isnt all hype...

 

actually vtec kicks in at 5800 but it is a huge difference between the h22 and the k20a2. Once you get k-pro and get a decent tune and change vtec to at least 5200 you'll be set.

 

Yeah vtec on stock rsx-s doesnt kick in till 5800. also its kinda hard on public roads and everything but once you start hitting vtec youll go and go. Walk over most cars too. Also rex is easy to mod. but being disappointed with 100hp per liter, i would say not.

 

I know exactly as you feel i had a coupe with a gsr and I/H/E and i when i bought the type s i was expecting so much more. The power isnt bad but i was expecting a big difference. The only thing i really regret about getting the car is how much it cost but in the end it still a good car.

 

It's still a decent engine to keep you occupied. It's not so slow that you would hate it like a ep3.. ::SHUDDERS::

 

people praise the k motors because they are so mod friendly
but you are right
stock, they are slow

 

people praise them because the added VTC+VTEC makes these engines more powerful especially when modded but yes stock they are slow as hell.

 

i bet when these came out in 02
people (especially the honda community) thought these cars were the shyyyytt

 

i got nutte to say... but it smoke alot of cars

 

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but then you just said...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GradyDC5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's still a decent engine to keep you occupied. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ALL K20's are GREAT ENGINES to keep you occupied!

(and once you get used to the Vtec, Gear GRINDING will keep you occupied also!)

i went for the EP3, and was looking for "MORE HP!" right away, like all of us!
But not disappointed!

Once you get K-Fast! you won't go bacK!

 

Well I havent given up. I do love my new car!! Guess its time to start modifiying...

 

Quote (cb7-R..no more)<U>Guess its time to start modifiying...</U>




Good luck with the build!
...Keep us updated with some pics!

 

The power curve on the Type S is much smoother than that of a b-series. Vtec engages much smoother, there fore you might not feel that instant kick of power like in previous vtec engines. The smoother power curve is better for everyday driving and gives you USEABLE power on the street.

 

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ALL K20's are GREAT ENGINES to keep you occupied!

(and once you get used to the Vtec, Gear GRINDING will keep you occupied also!)

i went for the EP3, and was looking for "MORE HP!" right away, like all of us!
But not disappointed!

Once you get K-Fast! you won't go bacK!
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I test drove a 05 ep3 way back when. Let me tell you that was a turd. Plus, it looks like a minivan. Plus, My type-s doesn't have the gear grinding issues. Not hating on ep3's, but if it was my personal choice. I would never own one period.

 

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He had an H22 which has a better curve and more torque than any B series. I think the H22 gives more usable power on the street than even a k20.

 

But H series hates boost

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WhiteOnRice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But H series hates boost</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont see why everyone thinks that. With stock internals theyre just as capable of making the same numbers as stock B series in boosted form. Check out the FI section

And dont forget itll spool turbos faster than the B series will too

 

because H wont hold the power as much as a B...
Haven't seen a H hit high 7's haven't really seen an H hit below high 9's.

 

I think it may seem slower because there is alot less torque in a k-series then in the h22. To be honest there is no power in the rsx whatsoever below 5000rpms. Having alot of torque throws you back in your seat upon acceleration and that makes daily driving more enjoyable. I really wish I had bought an american car now...

 

Well then go buy an american muscle and don't complain about it. If you wanted power from the get go and didn't want to make power from a 4 cylinder complaining isn't going to make your car faster. If you feel you don't like a 4 cylinder then don't complain and go do something about it. I hate when people say **** like that, they don't appreciate imports. You can make your 4 cylinder faster if you put money to it and do the **** right. You can't compare both a v8 and a 4 cyinder and that's what you are inadvertently doing. APPLES AND ORANGES (metaphorically speaking)... THEY BOTH ARE DIFFERENT!

Either way both a v8 or a 4 cylinder can make power. whining about Hondas not having enough torque is not going to get you any more torque. You should of known that from the get go and that's your dumbass fault. Hondas now a days came from a long way from what they were back then.

 

Also let me quote from Novembers Modified Mag P. 16 from the editors:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Modified Mag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Ok all you Honda haters, this one's for you. I am sick and tired of reading your lame *** online forum posts and signatures about your lawnmower having more torque then a Hanoda, your bike being faster then a Civic, and that animated gif of Calvin (Remember Calvin and Hobbes?) pissing on the Honda badge. Seriously, what year is it again? 1999? I remember when this whole fad of knocking on Honda broke loose. It was funny because it was kinda true at the time. There were tons of Civics running around with nasty Invader-style kits and Skittle "tastes the rainbow" colored paint jobs and a fart can out back but with nothing serious under the hood.

Times have changed though and Hondas and the Honda scene have came a long way. There are more clean Civics with engine swaps that roam the streets then riced out versions. The development of the <U>K-series</U> has proven once again that naturally aspirated engines mean buisiness. With the possiblity of making 300+ NA whp and 200 ft0lbs, the days of Hondas being the laughing stock of the import scene are long gone.

It's not that I'm a huge Honda fanatic -I'm actually a bigger Nissan geek but i do have respect for any car that is quick and can handle like a champ. So before you go posting that boneheaded response about a 10-year-old Honda stereotype, stop and think about it. It may just save you some humiliation the next time you line up against a well-built Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Modified by risktypeS at 8:56 PM 10/22/2007

 

you gotta help the k20 out and open it up and let it breath before you start to see the real benefits.

 

*shakes head*

The K-Series has SOOO much more potential than the H/B Series.

 

K&gt;B. I also changed over from an Integra to a RSX, and at first, I thought it was alot faster. At least it felt so. But stock for stock, they're bout the same.

I've come to the conclusion that my RSX is just a pig. I haven't had the chance to weigh her yet, but it's def heavier than my Teg. I weighed my Teg, light weight reduction (spare, back seat), and it was 2665 w/ me in it. Has anyone weighed their RSX w/ them in it and in close to stock condition?

 

Wow this turned into a pissing contest. I didnt start a "which motor is better" thread, I simply said that the RSX is not as quick as I thought it would be. I've had my H22 accord for 5 years so I'm used to the torque. When I step on it ,it moves. I expected the RSX to be lighter and quicker. Its not. But its bone stock. and I hope that with a few simple bolt ons and K-pro it will live up to the hype.