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??? Possible to use GC coilovers for stock type shocks w/ Koni sports????

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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Default ??? Possible to use GC coilovers for stock type shocks w/ Koni sports????

Well, is it? Or do I have to get some of the Koni-specific coilovers. I would prefer to use what I already have.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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it is not possible to do it. You must have koni specific GCs
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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yeah you can, you jsut need the koni spring mounts. and set the shock up as if you were tossing a set of springs on them.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kiddcarbuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah you can, you jsut need the koni spring mounts. and set the shock up as if you were tossing a set of springs on them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is incorrect and the circlip will fail. DO NOT INSTALL your suspension the wrong way.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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how so? i was under the impression that you can set yelllows up with the srping mounts like like regualr shocks.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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do some research on here and you will see
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kiddcarbuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah you can, you jsut need the koni spring mounts. and set the shock up as if you were tossing a set of springs on them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is bad advice as it invites failure, don't ever do it. If you use KONIs with the circlip mounted spring perch design like most Hondas have, you must use sleeves that have a specific groove in one end to swallow and capture the circlip and have the exact correct inside diameter to fit the outside diameter of the KONI (42mm). Discard the chrome spring perch that KONI provides with a stock shaped sporing tail if you are using a coil-over sleeve. Most other brands use a weded on spring perch and that welding doesn't care if the coil-over doesn't fit well or isn't loaded evenly to the shock body. Several companies including KONI and Bilstein use the circlip design instead of welding to allow for a few different options but there is less room for error is misinstalling the coil-overs on the circlip design. To my knowledge, only KONI and Ground Control make a coil-over sleeve to perfectly and these are the only ones to be used.

I have posted this discussion probably 100 times on H-T so a search will come up with endless comments. The circlip system is very strong and works very well, if you use a coil-over system (one of my CRXs has had it for years) you must install it correctly to be safe. If you do it wrong, that corner of the car can fall down when driving if you hit bug bumps or potholes just wrong. I have seen it happen enough (mostly on heavier cars like Preludes and Accords) and it is always someone who simply tossed it together with improperly fitting parts.
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