NewAge X intake vs Injen CAI.... dynos and vids inside
Sooooo.... im super excited again, i dynoed mike_si_29 06 FG2, and im happy to report that my intake slapped the injen CAI silly,
here are some notes....
the car has hondata reflash with Injen CAI, P2R spacer and gaskets, hondata manifold gasket with the coolant by pass... the car with this set up base lined 178.3 WHP... which is almost what i got with the last car i dynoed with a injen CAI, 177.3 WHP only a pathetic 3 over stock, remember guys that this dyno reads a bit lower... like 10 less then a dynojet. well i removed the injen silcone elbow that rubs the crap out of the radiator hose. we put the X intake on and do a run... it puts down 11 more WHP over the injen. 189.3WHP tally that up, thats 14WHP over over stock... injen with its silly pipe resizing makes the car run really rich.. we saw 11.7 at one point with a up and down AFR really unstable. mine was sitting pretty at 13.3 then 12.4 at redline.
*****************DYNO SHEETS******************
well my scanner took a dump, so here are some crude pics from my camera phone.

AFR notice how rich the injen is... we can even smell the unburned gas in at the shop after the pulls

this is a DYNO JET FIGURE with the Injen CAI, spacers, IMG, and reflash

here is my X intake on the car ECU was not reset either...

pics of another MAF i just finished..



heres a video
here are some notes....
the car has hondata reflash with Injen CAI, P2R spacer and gaskets, hondata manifold gasket with the coolant by pass... the car with this set up base lined 178.3 WHP... which is almost what i got with the last car i dynoed with a injen CAI, 177.3 WHP only a pathetic 3 over stock, remember guys that this dyno reads a bit lower... like 10 less then a dynojet. well i removed the injen silcone elbow that rubs the crap out of the radiator hose. we put the X intake on and do a run... it puts down 11 more WHP over the injen. 189.3WHP tally that up, thats 14WHP over over stock... injen with its silly pipe resizing makes the car run really rich.. we saw 11.7 at one point with a up and down AFR really unstable. mine was sitting pretty at 13.3 then 12.4 at redline.
*****************DYNO SHEETS******************
well my scanner took a dump, so here are some crude pics from my camera phone.

AFR notice how rich the injen is... we can even smell the unburned gas in at the shop after the pulls

this is a DYNO JET FIGURE with the Injen CAI, spacers, IMG, and reflash

here is my X intake on the car ECU was not reset either...

pics of another MAF i just finished..



heres a video
you didn't give a the car a chance to "learn" the fuel ratio. Did you ever think that honda intended for the car to run that rich?
It's a possibility that the air/fuel will return to what is was and your gains will diminish. give it time and test again
It's a possibility that the air/fuel will return to what is was and your gains will diminish. give it time and test again
yes i have, with the injen CAI and with the AEM SRI, and although gains were alot higher, they still did not match my tq numbers and both company's filters sucked.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfactorwrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have done you you just said about 3 times... all three cars showed 12-15WHP over stock same day, same dyno, one run after another.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol no i meant vs. injen or any other cai
lol no i meant vs. injen or any other cai
read the 1st post, his car had the injen CAI on already, hes had it for about a year, we dynoed it, it baselined 178 WHP and then we removed the injen silcone elbow and attached my intake on the car, and without even a ECU reset the car made a 11 WHP increase.. it also ran alot better.
you ought to send your findings to AEM and Injen, they just may put you on their payroll.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfactorwrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> injen with its silly pipe resizing makes the car run really rich.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe Injen did this because the ECU is calibrated for a specific diameter so the MAF can read more accurately. I remember when the Matrix XRS came out SCC had a similar problem with intakes as well. They had to keep the diameter of the intake the same where the MAF went but increased the diameter everywhere else.
Something else that kinda raises and eyebrow is, are you doing dyno pulls with the hood open (it looks open)? If your intake is being used in the real world I would think engine bay temps may bring some of these numbers down, but then again your scoop can be intergrated.
Modified by Kidnkorner at 3:06 AM 10/21/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfactorwrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> injen with its silly pipe resizing makes the car run really rich.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe Injen did this because the ECU is calibrated for a specific diameter so the MAF can read more accurately. I remember when the Matrix XRS came out SCC had a similar problem with intakes as well. They had to keep the diameter of the intake the same where the MAF went but increased the diameter everywhere else.
Something else that kinda raises and eyebrow is, are you doing dyno pulls with the hood open (it looks open)? If your intake is being used in the real world I would think engine bay temps may bring some of these numbers down, but then again your scoop can be intergrated.
Modified by Kidnkorner at 3:06 AM 10/21/2007
dynoing another car tomorrow morning with injen vs X intake version 2 with a header exhaust, hondata and some stage 1 cams. we'll see how this turns out
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