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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I HAVE A 99 EX D16Y8 AND IT SEEMS THAT WHEN I HAVE IT IN NUETRAL I GET A LOUD RATTLING NOISE...BUT WHEN I PUT IT IN FIRST AND HOLD THE PEDAL DOWN IT STOPS......ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS????...SOMEBODY SAID IT MIGHT BE THE CLUTH BUT NOT SURE......? THANKS
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Input shaft bearing making some noise.
How many miles on your current motor/trans?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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138000 on the stock motor.....maybe input shaft bearings, but some say clutch but never have i heard a noise like this from a cluth....
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinky5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">138000 on the stock motor.....maybe input shaft bearings, but some say clutch but never have i heard a noise like this from a cluth....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its most commonly the Input shaft bearing that would make it rattle like that when the clutch is up when in no gear.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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possible T/O bearing?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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ok cuz ya i can push and let go and it only makes the noise when up.....where can i get the parts?....
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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t/o bearing??
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinky5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok cuz ya i can push and let go and it only makes the noise when up.....where can i get the parts?....</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like a T/O bearing
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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with 138k on the motor, its probably time to look into replacing the clutch, either with OEM or aftermarket parts, depending on what your budget is.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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well i want to come to the end of this.....i wonder what the price of the part is???
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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ya im gonna change the cluth pretty soon,,,,,but not sure if i want oem or not....whats a good website for these parts?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinky5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya im gonna change the cluth pretty soon,,,,,but not sure if i want oem or not....whats a good website for these parts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
are you planning on doing mods and what not, turbo etc. If so mind as well upgrade the clutch.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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i dont know if i wanna go turbo...just got the whip and want it reliable firt...got me....
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinky5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i want to come to the end of this.....i wonder what the price of the part is??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends what it is. If its the Throwout bearing, its relatively cheap to get one, but unless you install it yourself, or have a knowledgable friend do it, your going to pay lots in labor fees at a shop, becuase it involves removing the tranny to get to it, which is a several hour (or more) job, depending how fast they work.
If its your Input Shaft bearing, then your eventually going to have to have it replaced (bearing inside tranny) by a shop or just replace the tranny altogather with a used one. Either way, unless you do the work yourself, its going to be expensive if it goes to a shop.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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o ok got ya....so either throw out or input shaft bearings...but how much are each of these parts...u think its worth is to mess with or just buy another tranny?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depends what it is. If its the Throwout bearing, its relatively cheap to get one, but unless you install it yourself, or have a knowledgable friend do it, your going to pay lots in labor fees at a shop, becuase it involves removing the tranny to get to it, which is a several hour (or more) job, depending how fast they work.
If its your Input Shaft bearing, then your eventually going to have to have it replaced (bearing inside tranny) by a shop or just replace the tranny altogather with a used one. Either way, unless you do the work yourself, its going to be expensive if it goes to a shop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think alldata has it for 6 hours. its really a 30 minute job and its pretty much a flat fee we used to charge 85/hour then 6 for RR of tranny

btw that is NOT the mecnanic getting all that. the mechanic sees 10 bucks an hour to 20

20 if you're a master tech soooooooooooo we're NOT crooks!
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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ya but what do u think the parts are gonna cost?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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dude a clutch kit for your car is like 130 bucks for everything, make sure you get your flywheel re surfaced, its like 30 bucks
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by simplegreenmachine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">possible T/O bearing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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If u go with a ebay clutch i stand strong with xtd....i have a stage 3 in my b16 a year and it holds up great. i run it hard everyday. Most of the xtd kits come with a lighten flywheel, if u want the car to be a daily driver then DON'T get a lighter flywheel it alot harder to get moving from a stop. thats clutch wise

Imput shaft bearing wise..... go to the honda dealer and get a price on the imput bearing...there not cheap! i just took apart my tranny and the bearing was trashed. Lucky for me i had another tranny case and i switched out the parts in it i know the bearing is good in it i used it once before. trannys aren't hard to figure out. get a manaul off the net http://spoonhonda.com/downloads.htm and look at the pics. of couse u will have to take the case some where to have the bearing pressed in.
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but if u do get a new clutch either take off the case and look at the immput shaft bearing or take the tranny out of the car and take it somewhere to have it looked at. theres no reason to change a clutch and put it all back together to find out the noise is still there, all becuz u didn't have someone look at the tranny. i hope my info helps
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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im willing to bet it isnt the throwout bearing, clutch or anything like that. Its definatly the input shaft bearing. Very common for these to go out on honda transmissions. Diagnostic

If the noise only happens when you press the clutch in (engaged) then its clutch related. (throw out bearing or what have you)

If the noise is there all the ******* time driving you nuts untill you press clutch in then its in your transmission (the good old input shaft bearing). The clutch stops the transmission from spinning, think about it.

Research it. To all the people automatically saying clutch Nothing worse then taking it all apart, dumping money into the wrong part, putting it back together and finding out its still all fucked up. Take my word on it.

Also to the OP do you notice almost like a whining noise or in a more worse case kinda like a dry bearing noise while driving. Especially when accelerating or down shifting?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im willing to bet it isnt the throwout bearing, clutch or anything like that. Its definatly the input shaft bearing. Very common for these to go out on honda transmissions.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Replacing the clutch on my '98 Y8 was a big waste of time. Should have just gone straight for the ISB. I had some people telling me back then that it was a throw out bearing too. Brought it to a couple of certified Honda technician and they diagnosed it as being the input shaft bearing for sure.

It makes a chatter when idling and when I press the clutch in the sound goes away. Sometimes (as of lately) when it's in first, it's began to make almost a zipper like sound when I'm accelerating. Have a replacement transmission we put together, but the snap ring won't seat so I'm stuck for now.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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ya but when i drive it sounds like its winding up?????
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinky5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya but when i drive it sounds like its winding up????? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Either way you look at it, its going to have to come off the motor, no matter whats getting repaired or replaced. I would start saving some cash.
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