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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 04:16 AM
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Default ZC bottom end.

Yes, i tried searching, and I know there was a similar thread not too long ago.

But anyways, I have the chance to purchase a ZC, with a bad bottom end. Basically there was some oil starvation, and the rest went. So the crank has some scoring. The head is in great shape, and has no problems. But what I was wondering, is what parts fit the bottom end? Is it from the Si motor, or from the integra motor? If its from the integra motor, I have a 89 sitting in my garage, so that would work great. Also, how much should I offer on this motor? He was leaning towards $250, but I dont know if thats decent or not.

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 04:26 AM
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My opinion is that is a bit steep, you should be able to get another ZC that doesn't need major bottom end work for about 5-600. you may have much more than that before you fix that one.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 04:46 AM
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Default Re: ZC bottom end. (virginia_dude)

Well, I was thinking of offering more like $125-150, if I know what parts can be used. He thinks $250 is a good price because it has the ZC distributor, and the intake manifold, which he thinks could be sold for $250 for the both of them.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 05:07 AM
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well I have heard the TEG crank would fit but since I have never tried it myself don't hold me to it. THis has been discussed before but I just don't remember exactly what crank fits, $125 is a good price I would pay myself, as long as you know what you'l be putting into it. and if its worth the knowledge to you. I guess a motor with a fresh overhaul is worth about $1-200 over the price of a complete good motor with unknown miles on it, since you did it and for peace of mind. But if you was going to slap eagle rods and forged pistons in it you have a great low buck starting point. I just happened to get a really clean good ZC when I got mine, was able to hand pick it in the warehouse. And really wasn't wanting to spend too much with I dropped it in my 4G DX Hatch. Keep in mind you just may need an oil pump too, and that will start escalating your costs.


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 05:14 AM
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Keep in minf that in most cases an item is worth more parted out than together, but your point is what it will cost YOU to make it whole. At $250 = parts and labor ,you have to remember you can get a good running motor that isn't hosed and needing masive work for $5-600. Can you really replace an oil pump, crank and bearings for that, and then are you sure there is no cylinder wall scoring? What about the cam bearing surfaces, they get oil AFTER the main bearings, if those are hosed your cams may be damaged too. Not for sure but might be. And something to certainly consider.


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 05:24 AM
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Default Re: ZC bottom end. (virginia_dude)

Keep in minf that in most cases an item is worth more parted out than together, but your point is what it will cost YOU to make it whole. At $250 = parts and labor ,you have to remember you can get a good running motor that isn't hosed and needing masive work for $5-600. Can you really replace an oil pump, crank and bearings for that, and then are you sure there is no cylinder wall scoring? What about the cam bearing surfaces, they get oil AFTER the main bearings, if those are hosed your cams may be damaged too. Not for sure but might be. And something to certainly consider.


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True. I guess what I need to look into, is how closly related the ZC is, to the integra motor, and what can be used. The integra motor was pulled with 42k on the odometer. So it should be good. If the parts are compatible, then I think it may be a good start. If not, then I will just skip this, and look for a good, complete zc.

Also, I am no real need of a new motor now. I was just thinking this would be a good project. So most, if not all the work would be done myself, with the help of my father in law.
Thanks again.


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 07:13 AM
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rod bearings: 88-89 teg
main bearings: 88-89 teg
pistons: 88-89 teg

if you need more info let me know.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 07:42 AM
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well the cam bearings are easy enough to see. and if you can pull the head the cylinders can be visually checked. Just weigh your options carefully before you decide. It could be a great project or a nightmare if you don't examine everything well. Like if you plan or Boosting and put Eagle rods and Forged pistons, and you have a crank that would fit and everything is n good shape. Thats a great base to build from. If you are going the stock route everything but bearing and crank being great matters even more.


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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Default Re: ZC bottom end. (virginia_dude)

Thanks for the replies. I am going over to make an offer of $125. If he goes for that, then I will go from there.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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And anoth thing, that ZC intake manifold only fits ZC heads (the DOHC ones at least) the market for those is going to be somewhat limited to those who have somehow managed to screw theirs up. But the Distributer, thats an easy sell, they have a record of having problems just like the TEG motors did since they share a distributer.
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