I have a 4th generation and I do not really know anything about brakes so I need some help. I know that cheap *** brakes suck *** cause I already went through about 3 warping them in less than a year. I need some good performance brakes that can take a lot of pain. I was thinking maybe the mugen ones but they cost like 1.2k and I'm not even sure if they will fit because they belong to a 5th generation. If they are good quality though then I might just get them but I need other alternitives for the time being.

 

The brakes are pretty big on the front..Just get some power slots/stop rotors and maybe some bigger pistons on the calipers like the NSX upgrade. that round probally 700$ on hondaprelude.com. the back brakes need big help the pads are really small. You could also just disconnect the abs and it would work better.

 

i dont know about what he just said, but i would recommend investing in some good brake pads (porterfields, or maybe axis ultimates from carbotech) you dont need mugen rotors (heh) maybe some brembo cross drilled/slotted. oh, and if its true about disconnecting the abs, there's a real easy way to do it, pull the fuse.

peace


[Modified by wutangben, 4:20 PM 6/20/2002]

 

do you have a SI, or VTEC....?? That is the most important part that you left out...

If you have VTEC, just get some good high performance pads (Axxis Ultamates, Hawk HP comes to mind) , clean fresh brake fluid, and maybe stainless steel lines.... Thats about all you have to do...

Now, if you have a S, or SI, upgrade to VTEC 11.1" rotors and your choice of either Acura Legend, ITR, Prelude VTEC, or NSX calipers, all will work fine for a street car..

Do not waste your money on slotted/xdrilled rotors, AEM type brake pads/brake upgrade, and screw Mugen..

Corey - who has stock braking system on his Racecar.....

 

Don't forget the 92-95 Acura Legend twin piston calipers as well! They bolt on the same as the NSX ones.

 

Crossdrilled rotors=cheese grater for your brake pads. Brembo blanks if you need new rotors. Hell just do what Corey says.

 

You'll probably have to change out your master cylinder if you get bigger calipers, or ones with more pistons.
Like Corey and laughin2.2 said, if you get rotors, get brembo blanks.
Also, if you're trying to shorten brake distances, get better tires, they slow you down, not brakes.


[Modified by Steppin Razor, 2:36 PM 6/20/2002]

 

No, you don't need to change the master cylinder when you get the NSX or Legend calipers, the stock master works just fine with a nice stock feeling pedal.

 

Which one of these guys is Corey. Oh I have an 92 SI, but thinking about popping a VTEC in, in the future.

 

I am trying to shorten my braking distance, but i need some new brakes too. My brakes are very warped right now and I want something that can take the heat (cause I use my brakes hard) and look good behind the rims. Thats pretty much why I want mugen brakes (cause people usually get hyped when they see mugen), but Ill listen to you guys. About the tires, I'm gonna get some performance ones with the brake upgrade.

 

I am Corey... Read Sig... Been roadracing awile, knows what works for prelude brakes, without spending much money...

 

Ok cool, I dont really come on this board much but Ive heard a lot of good things about you so Ill just take your advice.

 

SPOON!!! -they look pretty cool...

 

ok... spoon and prelude dont even come into the same sentence. spoon doesnt know the lude exists! those *******

 

ok, lets test your brake knowledge corey. what kind of upgrade can i do to a 88-91 lude to get better stopping front and rear? are there any calipers that will bolt up to mine in the front to give me dual piston? how about the rear so that i could have some vented rotors in the back instead of the cheap single plate rotors? any suggestions?

 

Well, if you want to stay in STS, you can't do much.. Caliper upgrades are illegal right?? Anyways, I don't know much about the 3rd gen prelude, well, nothing really.. Just get some good pads, good fluid, and you will notice a huge difference, if you want pad suggestion, let me know...

Dual piston calipers arn't a big deal, I still use singles on mine with solid rotors in the back...

 

I hope you don't mind my chiming in even though you didn't ask. Corey's right, there's not much you can do and stay in STS. I'd stick with upgrading pads, fluid, and stainless steel brake hoses. The brake hoses will reduce compliance in the system, meaning less pressure will be needed to move the caliper piston. Better pads is a bit tricky because track pads, or performance pads, generally don't work as well on the street because they have higher operating temps.

He's also right about the dual piston calipers. If you add those without increasing the size of the master cylinder piston, you can worsen your brakes, not make them better. If you have dual pistons, then you need more fluid to move those pistons. Increasing MC size increases compliance, so you have to be careful about that.
[Edit: damn spelling]


[Modified by Steppin Razor, 11:25 AM 6/26/2002]

 

i am only running sts this summer. after that, when i get done with my crx, i will most likely be making this prelude into a prepared car. i have upgraded my brakes, but the car still doesn't stop as quickly as i would like. so, when i tear this car apart for prepared, i can upgrade my brake system, master cylinder and all. i was just looking to see if there was anything that might fit to allow me to stop better. the rear rotors warp too easily in the back of this car. they are small and too thin. i was hoping i could upgrade those a little so they wouldn't warp so easily. and i believe you are right, you can't upgrade brakes for sts. future mods.

 

What kind of tires are you running? For the rotors, see if you can get Brembo blanks. The SS brake hoses are also a very good upgrade.

 

I'm upgrading, or at least replacing, my brakes on a 91 Si pretty soon too. What pads would you recomend for improved performance, but still be good for street use? I don't want something that needs a real high temp to start operating. Thanks.

Jason
1991 prelude Si

 

Hawk HPS....

how the hell do you warp rear rotors...?? Been racing with mine for several years, no replacement needed.. I really don't understand why you think yours are warping...

 

get better tires. Calipers/Rotors/Pads are nothing w/o proper tires that stick.

 

very true, unless you can't lock them up in the first place

 

I've just done an upgrade on mine.
So here goes.

You need the rotors and calipers from the 4g Vtec.
the rotors need to have the bells drilled to a 4x100mm PCD so that they fit on the hubs.
you need 3mm spacers behind the caliper mounts.

Bolt it all on, bleed 'em up and 'hey presto' !

And they are bloody impressive.
I'm running with old pads and rotors at the moment , so as to save cash in case anything didn't fit.
But they are a massive improvement on the originals.
Anything more than this is probably overkill as the tyres will let go first .

The most cost effective brake upgrade you'll ever do .
And it leaves the option to go with Legend calipers in the future.


Not sure about the rears though.
Apart from caliper seizing problems, I've never had a problem with mine.
And unless you're getting fr/rr balance problems , I don't see the need to up-rate them.

 

i have good tires and good pads. they are cheap rotors, but they are still warping. my father owns a garage and every time i have him turn rotors for the rear of my prelude they are warped. i have replaced them both once already from being warped too much to turn them and still be within the legal limit. i don't know how you guys drive (this is not to be taken as an insult or in a bad way) but when i race, either road race or autox, my pads get pretty warm. i have almost lit a pair of organic pads on fire from road racing (and it was only a ten mile track), and i have warped my rear rotors from autoxing. i don't know how, but i have a pretty good idea that the rear rotors are just heating up way too much. maybe i am too aggressive on the turns that i actually use the brakes on, i don't know. i still want to get my prelude to stop faster. maybe i will try getting some different rotors. i don't want cross drilled, but how about slotted? any good?

on a side note: put 3mm spacers behind the caliper mounts as in between the bracket and the "knuckle" or what? which caliper mount bracket do i need? the one from the vtec? will it bolt right up with those spacers inbetween there?