whats needed to install the rbc manifold into an ep3?

 

Did you try searching before you asked this question? And do you have something to tune it with? If not--as folks have told you--you will loose a lot of midrange torque.

 

kpro and yes i did try and search for rbc install and rbc ep3. the threads had questions.

 

RBC on a K20a3 is pointless if you do not have a turbo! You will lose not only mid-range, but you will also lose peak HP. You will gain nothing! If you are boosted try ephatch.com they have plenty of info on the RBC manifold.

Seriously i am not talking out of my *** when i say, "You will lose power throughout the entire powerband!"

 

The K20a3 does not move enough air to make use of that big of a plenum. Boost is the only answer for an RBC. Look into getting a PRC out of the Type R. You will lose mid-range torque but with KPRO and a good tune you should gain some peak power. Also look into some cams for better gains on the PRC.

Cams won't help with the RBC. Oh also the PRB out of the Type S is the same as our stock intake manifold. Part # and all! So this is not something to waste your money on! Just a heads up!

 

awesome info dude thnx, i just decided to get the ep3 instead of rsx-s. now i need to do research all over to figure what are good bolt-on additions for an NA ep3 setup other than i/e/h and kpro. got any other tips?

 

yeah ditch the k20a3 and go with ak20a2 or k20z1 an all motor setup on an a3 would be pointless imo

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc5RickK20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all motor setup on an a3 would be pointless imo</TD></TR></TABLE>

it wont stay that way forever.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc5RickK20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah ditch the k20a3 and go with ak20a2 or k20z1 an all motor setup on an a3 would be pointless imo</TD></TR></TABLE> I will prove you wrong on this one! Sure it won't make the same power as a built K24, however i will prove to all you a2 heads that a built K20a3 is nothing to turn away from! I will go to other meets across the nation and show you all what a built a3 can do! Just wait til that day!

 

To things need to be done to build an all motor a3. First Raise compression via Type R pistons with .25 over bore. And build your head with decent cams and have the head port and polished. Then get it tuned! Should be around 200WHP or higher. I will be building this setup myself. So if you would like to wait until it's built that cool. I should begin work on it soon!

 

^^^ you can reach 200whp by getting the rocker arm assembly and cams from an a2. the complement the new cams with kpro and bolt ons.

 

what part are u going with or you doing custom?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20CiviC02Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To things need to be done to build an all motor a3. First Raise compression via Type R pistons with .25 over bore. And build your head with decent cams and have the head port and polished. Then get it tuned! Should be around 200WHP or higher. I will be building this setup myself. So if you would like to wait until it's built that cool. I should begin work on it soon!</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow 200whp on a built motor! hmmm... in my type-s i can get 200whp with an intake and k-pro its cool that you wanna do your build i just dont see the point you can take that money swap in an a2 or z1 and make way more power with alot less mods or you can build an a2 and make around 260whp. to me building a k20a3 for all motor is just waisted effort

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc5RickK20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wow 200whp on a built motor! hmmm... in my type-s i can get 200whp with an intake and k-pro its cool that you wanna do your build i just dont see the point you can take that money swap in an a2 or z1 and make way more power with alot less mods or you can build an a2 and make around 260whp. to me building a k20a3 for all motor is just waisted effort</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats if you want that much power thou, see i am gonna be using it as a DD and winters can get bad here so i dont need a lot of power. i may go to the track every once in a blue moon. that and if i want more power i can just turbo it and get like 230-250whp. which wud be awesome for an a3!

 

yeah but any heavily modded motor is going to be less reliable with the numbers your looking for you could swap in an a2 and just call it a day with minimal mods that chassi is just begging for a more powerful motor just look at the CTR its one of the more balanced of the type-r's i have seen many civic type-r's out handle the dc5

 

i feels u on the swap, but for now i just wanna have the NA power. i am sure i will do a swap when i get into higher mileage and get more expeirenced at driving cars with more hp than i am used to.

my last two car were weak.
99 mazada protege 105bhp, ghey
02 em2 stock except fr intake, so like 115bhp max, agn ghey!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc5RickK20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wow 200whp on a built motor! hmmm... in my type-s i can get 200whp with an intake and k-pro its cool that you wanna do your build i just dont see the point you can take that money swap in an a2 or z1 and make way more power with alot less mods or you can build an a2 and make around 260whp. to me building a k20a3 for all motor is just waisted effort</TD></TR></TABLE>200WHP is just my goal people have far succeeded that on the a3 with a completely built motor. The blocks of the a2 and a3 are identicle minus the oil squirters. My motor build is only going to consist of:

ITR Pistons
Blueprint Rods
a2 Crank
P&P'd Head
Stage 2 cams and uprated valvetrain.

I know i could get 200 with just a head swap, race header and good tune and that i won't beat an a2 built. But i want to keep the a3 head! I know it won't make super high HP but that doesn't matter to me. I race on the circuit and in auto-x so super high HP is useless to me. My next motor will probably be 250WHP.


Im not attacking the a2, i respect that motor. Just don't go on the attack against the a3. I will gain some respect for this motor.

 

all i want is 230whp at most, i am thinking jrsc in a little, i wanna get the basics and suspension done first., then i will move on to getting a good amount of power

 

all im saying is it makes alot more sense to swap in an a2 that to go through the hassle of building a motor and i have no respect for the a3 im sorry dont mean to sound like an *** but building a a3 just seems like a waisted effort . not a wise way to spend money imo but if you got it then i guess do what you want with your cash it aint my money

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc5RickK20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all im saying is it makes alot more sense to swap in an a2 that to go through the hassle of building a motor and i have no respect for the a3 im sorry dont mean to sound like an *** but building a a3 just seems like a waisted effort . not a wise way to spend money imo but if you got it then i guess do what you want with your cash it aint my money</TD></TR></TABLE>No it's not because either way i am spending $6000 to achieve the same power goals.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nahonda04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i want is 230whp at most, i am thinking jrsc in a little, i wanna get the basics and suspension done first., then i will move on to getting a good amount of power</TD></TR></TABLE>Supercharger, CAI, Exhaust, and KPRO will achieve this.