I am a first time poster, long time lurker...have been looking at purchasing a CW Type R. I have been spending time on this forum and ITRCA forums to learn more about these cars and get some useful ownership advice/experiences. I am surprised to see all of the posts about owners who have had their cars stolen including this post from today:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2119276 sorry for your loss

my question is to those owners who have unfortunately had their ITR stolen is what kind of security measures did you take? did you have a quality alarm with an immobilizer? hidden kill switch? i have read posts saying the factory immobilizer is junk, any truth to that?

i would not want to give up my air bag but it seems like unless you have a snap-off steering wheel like http://www.tekniqauto.com/CDN/...e.htm most other measures are ineffective. i am also strongly considering a tracking system such as boomerangtracking.com.

this will be my daily driver so I would like to hear from you experienced owners.

cheers from toronto!

 

Even taking off the steering wheel won't help but so much. Steering wheels and kill switches don't stop tow trucks. I had thought about taking out my ECU when I parked, until I spoke to a friend who said the theives around here have an ECU on them. I would guess they would also have a steering wheel with them too. Thieves are getting smarter and smarter. There really isn't much you can do to stop someone who really wants your car. Very good alarm, kill switch and lojack/tracking system is all I would put on there. The alarm will alert you, the kill switch will slow em down, and you can use the lojack to recover it if they still get it. Your best bet against theft is a garage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eluam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even taking off the steering wheel won't help but so much. Steering wheels and kill switches don't stop tow trucks. I had thought about taking out my ECU when I parked, until I spoke to a friend who said the theives around here have an ECU on them. I would guess they would also have a steering wheel with them too. Thieves are getting smarter and smarter. There really isn't much you can do to stop someone who really wants your car. Very good alarm, kill switch and lojack/tracking system is all I would put on there. The alarm will alert you, the kill switch will slow em down, and you can use the lojack to recover it if they still get it. Your best bet against theft is a garage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the goal for me is to deter thieves to the point they seek an easier target. if they have a tow truck them of course there is little you can do. i suspect however that most of the ITR's that get stolen were not by tow trucks. can anyone comment on that? again, looking to hear from owners who have gone through this. as for the link i posted for the snap-off wheel system it has its own lock so a thief could not bring their own wheel.

 

Sorry, thought the link was for the tracking device you mentioned after it, so I didn't click it.

I've been through a theft before. And I've got "anti-theft" devices on my car. I've done what I can to protect my car, and I put the thought of it out of my mind. I can't live my life constantly worrying about my car being stolen.

 

Your best bet is have super sensitive alarm and be ready to sprint IF your R has to leave your sights.

If my alarm goes off... you better believe I'm running. And I can sprint pretty damn fast

 

All of the above&lt;LOL&gt;

Park a car behind the ITR so they have to move it first. A boot on one of the wheels. **** the front wheels and lock the steering column turned all the way to the side with one of those bars. Locking brake pedal bar.

I have been known to run a cable through one of the rear wheels and padlock it to the central rear body hook. Run a cable under the car seat up through the steering wheel, tilt the seat forward, run through the headrest and padlock.

Cheap video cam. Motion sensing halogen light system, surprise and blind.

Remove the R emblems. Paint it metallic green. Put on Pontiac G6 emblems. Paint the valve cover black.

A 10mm or .45 hits harder than a 9mm. Know your state's self-defense laws.

Have large beefy friends.

Actually mine was stolen out of my driveway and was dragged into a panel truck of some sort in the middle of the night. I got another since I wasn't going to be pushed around by thugs. I have done some of the above. Actually a 12 pump makes a satisfying cha-chunk sound when you rack a round&lt;LOL&gt;

John


Modified by Racebrewer at 3:08 AM 10/9/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racebrewer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All of the above&lt;LOL&gt;

Park a car behind the ITR so they have to move it first. A boot on one of the wheels. **** the front wheels and lock the steering column turned all the way to the side with one of those bars. Locking brake pedal bar.

I have been known to run a cable through one of the rear wheels and padlock it to the central rear body hook. Run a cable under the car seat up through the steering column, tilt the seat forward, run through the headrest and padlock.

Remove the R emblems. Paint it metallic green. Put on Pontiac G6 emblems. Paint the valve cover black.

A 10mm or .45 hits harder than a 9mm.

Have large beefy friends.

John</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, LOL at all that.

If you are gonna worry about theft, park it in a garage.

 

Nothing can prevent a tow truck or flatbed.
You just have to be street smart and stay away from kiddies car show or meets in advertising yourself.

 

Yup, mostly common sense and street smarts is all you need...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by machgo5go &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nothing can prevent a tow truck or flatbed.
You just have to be street smart and stay away from kiddies car show or meets in advertising yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

again guy's, looking for real world advice of what owners are doing to protect their ITR's. lets drop the comments about tow trucks and take time to read the post and provide constructive comments.

what do you guy's find effective, have not heard any comments on kill switch's, or effective alarms, factory immobilizer's, lo-jack/boomerang or removable wheels. lets keep it on topic and constructive since i can't bring my garage with me everywhere i go.

 

Talking about it into depth in a public forum isn't too good of an idea either, sorry...

 

I don't know what you want us to tell you. Nothing is gonna be effective short of taking apart the entire car each time you park it, and thats the sad reality of it.

Get a top of the line alarm with 2 way pager, a GPS system and setup starter/fuel/ignition kills. Its pretty cut and dry. I had a good alarm and a kill switch on my old DC4 and it still got stolen without a trace. The only thing I'd do differently looking back was gotten lojack, that way I could of recovered it.

Do you want us to pick out all the parts for you?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eluam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know what you want us to tell you. Nothing is gonna be effective short of taking apart the entire car each time you park it, and thats the sad reality of it.

Get a top of the line alarm with 2 way pager, a GPS system and setup starter/fuel/ignition kills. Its pretty cut and dry. I had a good alarm and a kill switch on my old DC4 and it still got stolen without a trace. The only thing I'd do differently looking back was gotten lojack, that way I could of recovered it.

Do you want us to pick out all the parts for you? </TD></TR></TABLE>

recommendations of which alarms are good and those to avoid would be helpful. no one has chimed in about the factory immobilizer, is it good or junk?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eluam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I had thought about taking out my ECU when I parked, until I spoke to a friend who said the theives around here have an ECU on them. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

1000cc injectors fix that

 

I keep my R safe!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IndyJDMones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I keep my R safe! </TD></TR></TABLE>

being smart and a garage eliminates alot of the chances!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highroller54 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

1000cc injectors fix that </TD></TR></TABLE>That was some thing I was going to comment on. The duty cycle would be like.....SCREWED!!!!!!!

One other thing, do you think some of these theft rings actually own the tow trucks/roll-backs?

 

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1000cc injectors fix that </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but thats a little more work than swapping ecu's.

To the OP, I've been very pleased with dei's alarms. I believe the Viper series has GPS as an option. I don't believe the Cliffords do, but the 2way pager on the Cliffords is faux CF, so it matches the ITR. I wouldn't install just an alarm out of the box. I'd add more to it, like extra sirens, backup batteries and make sure you get one with a good range if you plan on taking the R places. I never take my R to the mall, so at worst I'm inside a building adjacent to the parking lot, so if the alarm goes I have a good chance at getting there before its gone.

Read the thread that Spoon ITR made, his alarm didn't even go off, and I'd almost garauntee he was well within its range. Nothings a sure bet, but don't cheap out on the most basic things. If I wasn't on the computer I'm on now, I'd get you some better info on the alarms, but its a pain trying to do more than one thing at a time on here.

To the guy above me: I'd bet the theft rings don't own the trucks, that'd be an easy link. They've probably done their homework with that.

 

To the OP, if you dont know how to keep it safe without spending a lot of money on fancy gadgets, then dont get an R. Easiest way and cheap is to garage lock it when not in use.Dont go out cruising at night with it.Keep a low profile and just be smart and use common sense.The only way to keep it safe is YOU!!!!....

since you are using it as a DD, you are more at risk then someone who drive it occasionally....maybe, once a month for some

 

When owning a R, there are two types of security scenario's to think of. When you drive to go out and when you sleep at night, both of which are totally different and both need to be taken seriously.

People who have garages, might not have some of the devices in place to protect the R while on the street cause a lot of people think in won't happen at that particular place or i've parked here before with no problems or i'm only going to be a little while. Thats called "GETTING CAUGHT SLIPPING!" (For the guy who got his R stolen at Etown, very sorry for the loss)

Owning an R is a very responsible thing, you have expect someone to try to steal your car everytime you park it and think about every possible scenario before it happens... You're never really safe but you have to try your best to protect your investment, so do whatever it takes. Even my wife and her family is programmed to look out side whenever they hear my car alarm or any stange car's w/exhaust coming down our block cause we know there is no one else in the area has a car w/exhausts. My last girlfriend once saw me locking up my car using my various security measures and she was like, "why are doing all that? Its only a honda!" After pleasuring myself with her, i dumped her for the simple fact that she had no respect for the car that drove her to her destination and i felt she disrespected my honda so she had to go.

In reference to post regarding the factory immobilzer , no good. Any honda head can bypass this. A simple obd2 to obd1 jumper harness with a 92-95 civic p28/p06 ecu and the R start right up and drive away , and believe me, there are a lot of easier ways, i really don't want to put them out there.


Modified by sheekdude at 1:53 AM 10/9/2007

 

You most likely can get away with daily driving an ITR in the majority of Canadian cities. However, Toronto is not one of them.

 

what about those NRG steering wheel locks for removable steering wheel s? I use that on my car wherever i go.

 

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if you've got an engine build, unless they know the exact details, can tune and are capable of making a base-map, at least the ECU trick is ruined by that

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC4R27 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about those NRG steering wheel locks for removable steering wheel s? I use that on my car wherever i go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever removed a steering column on an integra or civic... My friends car almost got stolen with that on. Luckily he had to go to work early that morning and came out, the theives were in his car installing the column they came with and his was sitting on the sidewalk. They ran when they saw him... Its actually 6 bolts and the rest are plugs to remove your steering column maybe 15mins tops for professional theives. But it is a good deterrant, i doubt theives will try in broad daylight, but give the right amount of time, ITS A WRAP!

 

How long does it take to put 4 locking key boots on your car for the wheels?