Okay well i am picking up a b16a2 on sunday and the guy says that 2 head studs are broken inside the head.First off how does that happen and how do i get them out. he says there is a way at home or that i will have to have a machine shop get it out?

 

head studs or head bolts?

the studs/bolts do not thread into the head, but rather thread into the block. then again, if they are studs, I suppose the nuts could be stripped or something.

post pictures if you can. if it's just a stripped nut then maybe you can get one of those special twist-out sockets.

 

The only way your post makes sence is that you are buying a longblock and the head studs/bolts are broken off in your block.

Either that or the exhaust or intake manifold studs are snapped off.

The whole deal sounds shady. If your asking this question your better off taking it to a machine shop before it getts really messed up. I dont think they would charge more than 50$ depending.

or you can try an easy out. (they sell them at lowes) first you drill a hole in the center of the stud and turn the easy out like your losening the stud, it will bite into the stud and back it out. Be carefull, its easy to snap the easy out off in the hole in the stud and then your F*cked.

 

no i picked it up today and they are definitely broken off in the head. there are 2 but head studs aren't hollow. So im real confused. they are like hollowed out and that just doesnt make sense. I need more help

 

read this slow. . . .

Head studs arent threaded into the head they are threaded into the block.

Is the head off of the motor?

 

i understand...the head is off the motor. and there are to small peices of rods sticking out of the head stud holes that shouldnt be there i dont believe. i can post a pic when my camera is charged.

 

I say probably too much fun with NOS is the cause of broken head bolts. I believe so since I blew a few d series engines a few years back.

 

anyone else? i will post pics soon

 

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You are doing a horiable job of describeing the problem

 

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Head studs arent threaded into the head they are threaded into the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Head studs arent threaded into the head they are threaded into the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Head studs arent threaded into the head they are threaded into the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Head studs arent threaded into the head they are threaded into the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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what part of this didnt you understand. unless its a cam cap bolt we dont know what the hell your talking about.

 

ok im sorry then someone just tell my what the hel is sticking out of my head. there are 2 of them coming out. what could they be?

 

okay well i found a pic of someone elses motor and i guess im just a noob.take a look at this pick and tell me what the arrow is pointing too. well i have 2 of them. vertically from eachother and in the same spot as this one.

 

Dowel pins. Not broken.

 

and i should have to cuz its a vtec head? and the pic shows an ls head?

 

okay well i looked a lil closer and it looks like that they are actually broken the in block and the guy was just dumb. I can only clearly see one but he says there are 2. How would i go about getting them out?

 

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Vice grips, pliers, dikes. If you mess them up just buy two new ones. Just be careful not to scratch the surface of the head. The fact that you can not tell the difference between a stud and a dowel pin is disconcerting. You may want to get a professional to help you.

 

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You guys have something in common.

 

And when you figure this out, I am guessing 13-1 pump gas. Right?

 

I'm sure if he would have brought the head to a machine shop they would have pissed themselves when he described his problem.

 

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Yep. With .010 p2h @ 10kRPM

i can run 13:1 w/ a good tune, my buddy told me. Who knows where i can find a good tuner in So Ca;? + what ECU should i use?

BUMP

 

holy hell man you shouldn't even be working inside the head yet. not try to be mean but start easier first and work your way up. or get a manual to answer questions for you. then if you have a question that can't be answered by a service manual ask it on here. honda-tech not honda-manual

 

OMFG I pissing myself as I read this. LOL This is just about tops them all. Im not sure how a dowel pin could look like a stud. Show me a hollow stud anywhere. Well at least he found the search button. I cant wait for the next thread involving you installing new syncros. Ill subscribe for sure.

 

personally, i preferred the fella asking what intercooler to run with his ITB's. haha.

this is pretty good, though.

 

no i just never looked at the head until then when i found that pic. i know the difference i was just confused by what the guy told me, he threw me all off. and the studs are broken really deep i cant even get to them with some pliers. so i guess i will go to the machine shop or something and im glad that honda-tech guys can be helpful and others can be just dicks. thanks guys.

 

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YOU SAID THEY WERE HOLLOW, THEN YOU POSTED A PIC , AND CIRCLED SOME DOWEL PINS.

If the studs really broke, they are threaded into the block, not the head, they would just fall out. Stop lying.

Dont try to back track now.