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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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The car: 97 Honda Civic Hatchback DX

The engine: JDM GSR completely stock

Things I've added to the engine:

99 Civic EX catalytic converter
2nd o2 sensor to a USDM P72 ECU
EVAP solenoid
Adjusted timing to 16 BTDC
All Vacuum lines connected properly
USDM header
New Cap, rotor, wires
New Headgasket
New Water pump
Modded the CKF sensor wires (this is what worries me)

No CEL. No smoke from the car. Everything runs really good. You guys think I'm ready?




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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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what are common reasons why jdm motors fail smog?
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zerovandez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are common reasons why jdm motors fail smog?</TD></TR></TABLE>

because their madd jdm.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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I think you are ready man. Looking over your list you seem to have everything that is required. Just let her warm up really good before taking it in. GL
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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i live in SC, so i don't have to do smog testing, however my parents used to live in the northeast and my dad said that he would always rev his cars ('65 GTO, '70 Chevelle SS, and a couple of Trans Am's) up before the sniff test to help blow any crap out of the exhaust. just a thought if you are really worried, but don't do it too loud if you have a modded exhaust or else the inspectors might get pissed off and grade your car unfairly.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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hey man i've always heard to leave your car running till it gets tested.
other then that good luck
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Do you have a CKF sensor? If not you fail. Also what year is the motor? Do you have the butterflys connected? I think thats the only thing you didnt mention.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Well I don't have a CKF sensor. I did the CKF bypass trick on ff-squad.com. Everything is connected as it should be from Acura/Honda. Butterflies work and the motor is from a 98 GSR.

Do you think they'll actually look for the CKF sensor? I've searched on HT and came accross a thread where a guy did the CKF bypass and passed.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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It all depends on the person inspecting it, judging by your list you're on the right track, good ****
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Thanks man. I zip tied the intake down. You guys think that matters? it's an intake from an LS integra.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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If you dont have the CKF youll more then likely fail. Did the guy you see pass pass the REF or was it regular smog? If he passed he got a ref that didnt care.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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yeah i agree...honestly it all depends on tha ref u take it to...sum are gonna be jerks and others wont care...in my experiences that i hear from my buddies, they always get tha jerks...example - "oh your missing a sensor - fail" or "oh your missing an emission controls - fail"...I hear that BAR allow a given amount of leeway towards gray area cars every year...those that are allowed are mostly muscles...all im sayin if this motor is an OBDI motor and u got it to mate wit an OBDII, get all tha OBDII parts (sensors and wut not). You can pass emissions but FAIL VISUAL.If you gots everything in possible your fate is up to that REF...gud luck man...
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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engine looks good
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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good luck fellow long beacher!
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Thanks all. My SRS light is on too. would I fail because of this?
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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im guessin u wouldnt pass the functional test on it...everything has to be workin fine...only way u can kno wuts wrong is if u hook up a scanner on ure ride and pull tha codes out...if u dont have access, im not sure on ure ecu but wut i did on my ride when i couldnt hook up a scanner, i jumped to 2 terminals on tha ecu connector. it flashed tha SRS light to send out tha codes...its a fail safe for tha ecu if ure scanner cant communicate wit tha DLC to pull out codes...but yeah get ure srs light to turn off before u go...
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Alright guys, the appointment date is getting closer. Any other tips? type of gas to use? additives?

Concerning my SRS light, should I just remove the whole SRS wiring and unit? will that turn off the SRS light?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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No that will turn it on, why is your SRS light on? Either way that shouldnt effect BAR. Now if it was a salvage title car and your gaining a new clean title then yes you would fail.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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u gonna be doing ur bar at elcamino college?? cuz we got a ref there.. might see ur car haha
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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SRS light is on because my jackass self installed a momo steeing wheel snipping some wires and loosing that reel thing with the yellow connectors. yeah I'm going there on tuesday. Does gas matter? I hear that 87 is better for smogging. Just worried that they will actually check for the CKF sensor. I just modded the ptank sensor thing too because it was throwing a p0453 code.


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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Haah koo ill be in class in the morning on tuesday
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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come by at around 12:50pm. You'll see me. Are the refs there cool? jerks? ********? easy going?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Theoretically lower octane fuel burns hotter and combusts at lower temperatures (so lower emissions, in theory) which is why you're more likely to detonate with lower octane. However the load on the engine during the test should be pretty low so 89 should be okay, just drive her easy on the way there to be as safe as possible.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Oh nvm ill be out of shop at 11:15 and at the time u come in ill be almost done with my other class. The guys there are koo
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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they don't check for that sensor because they assume its already there(regarding ckf sensor), why they assume this is because if it wasnt there, you would have a CEL.

i passed doing this trick and trust me, these guys looked for everything...i went to the ref station a total of 9 times because of little knick knacks...

they even told me that having the civic ex si cat was wrong and was required to have an itr cat. (o2 sensor on the cat on the ex/si is in the middle of the cat while the itr was in the back of the cat).

the SRS light is to no concern of theres. i had mine on and never once did they say anything about it...

make sure you run your car pretty hard before the test...cause when you get there they have your car off and just cooling down...well at least for me

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