Heres some background. Ever since I put this in here I've been having a trouble. Its an obd2 gsr with a rywire conversion and rywire chipped p06. I turn it on but after a few seconds it dies out. Use to throw code 3 and 7 for tps and map. After buying a new tps and map and getting a new intake mani, its no longer throwing codes but still dying out. I unplug the map and it revs up to 2250 and stays there. Dont know if that helps figure out this problem but I'm almost ready to give up.

Something that comes to mind is the TB gasket. The one every auto parts store got me was the same and i needed to cut out one of the stud wholes a little more for it to work. The ls one fit fine but covered up alot of stuff. I have gasket paper if I need to make a custom one, If the gasket is the issue.

Anything else come to mind? Anyone else have this problem? If so how'd you fix it?
Would really like to find out the problem so I can drive it.

 

Have you tried switching the MAP and TPS sensor plugs? They should both be 3 wire round plugs and the car will act as you've described if you plug them in backwards.

 

Na they're on right.
Any more suggestions?

 

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Does it die out of you give it partial throttle? When you installed the new after market gasket did you compare it to the OEM one (make sure it doenst cover up any air passages).

You can try hooking the MAP sensor up via a vacuum line to test if that air passage is blocked. Have you adjusted the idle screw and noticed a change in RPM?

I'd venture to say that unless you got a foreign object into our intake manifold, thats not the problem. TPS's rarely go out and MAP sensors are pretty reliable themselves. I'd suspect hardware before I went replacing all those parts. Good luck.

 

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I couldn't help but notice that you just said "na", as in, "no I didnt double check cuz im positive they are on right"

I believe there's actually 3 plugs (not sure about obd2, but there is on obd1) that are all the same on the mani. When you connect 'em wrong, they call it a round robin or something. Double check to be sure, and if you did...then gl.

 

I dont have then switched because rywire labeled the tps plug, and the plug that goes to the map is off the firewall. No longer throws the map or tps after I changed the TB and intake, but I'm still having this problem.
Yes it does die out when I give it throttle. The gasket looks wrong for my TB but I've been told this is the right one. The 90-93 fits but covers up some stuff that the other one doesnt and there is still the same problem with it dying out. Havent adjusted the idle screw, but would that make it just die out in second of starting it?
Really need to figure this out.

 

Quit guessing.

Go take the trottle body off the car and see if the gasket covers up any air passages. If it does, cut a hole in the gasket and put it back together. If you're quite certain its not electrical then it must be mechanical. I'd also use your old MAP sensor if it was working with your last motor. Since it is on the firewall, it's a known good sensor.

 

Adjust your TPS!

 

In my manual it says dizzy, injectors, or the gasket. The thing is if I unplug the map, then every few times I start it it'll rev up to 2250 and stay there. If I give it throttle it'll start to bog and then pick back up again when I let off.
Hope that helps because I really do not know whats going on.

 

have you tried switching the map and tps plugs yet?
rywire is only human they could have got mixed up like anybody.
just try it!
that way you can know for sure if its the plugs or not.

 

Yes, I've tried it. If it was wrong I would be getting codes, which I'm not anymore after switching the throttle body, yet I'm still having problems.

 

if you can get or find a known-good ECU to swap with your chipped p06.
when i chiped my ECU i made sure to get an extra unchipped ECU, that way i can swap it in to check for problems.
do you know anybody who can check the soldering in your p06?

sorry, I know these ecu's are hard to come by

also you said you replaced your intake mani, tps, and map sensors. so did you replace the throttle body to get the tps (pre-calibrated by honda) or did you just find the TPS sensor by itself? if you just got the TPS sensor alone, it will need to be adjusted. although i dont know that this will stall the car out.

and regaurding the GSR throttle body gasket, i've got one to take a pic of i you want.
by the way have you double checked that gasket to make sure its not obstructing anything. (sorry if i missed it)

 

I bought a whole new throttle body with the tps and map working on it.

I beleive the gasket I've seen many people using is for a 2.2 or 2.4l honda I beleive the part # is 60778. I had to cut a new whole for the bolt pattern of my intake mani because it didnt match up, so I thought it was the wrong one, but I guess its the one I'm suppose to use.

As for the ecu, would a newly chipped ecu just go bad like that? I dont really have the money to buy a ecu at this time but I can if its absolutely necessary. Hopefully rywire would send me a new one if thats the case.

 

bump

 

To SamN no bumping noob. Expect to be banned if done again by the moderators.

 

Heres the rules https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2086185

 

I have to say that gasket sounds like the culprit. did you have the original gasket in the first time you started it, or the replacement? You shouldnt have to poke any holes in it. i recently got a gasket for my gsr and i thought i had gotten the wrong one cause its said 2.3 h23a, but its actualy the same for the GSR and the 2.3 h23 (92-93), part# 16176 p30 0003.

if all this started after putting that gasket on, take if off and see if its blocking anything. or just for a realy quick test you could remove the gasket and install the throttle body, and start it to see if that was the cause.

 

Pretty much all the websites say to use the gasket I have, as well as the autoparts stores. For some reason though, one of the bolt holes didnt line up so I had to widen it a bit. The ls gasket fits but I think it leaves some stuff open/blocks some things. I'll try the gasket your talking about though, cant hurt to try.

After that I might just give up and take it to someone, because I've been trying to find this problem for a while. Thanks for your help grog, hopefully this fixes the problem.


loldohcvteclol, there was no point in either of your posts, I made a mistake, let the mods take car of it instead of coming into my thread and making 2 useless posts and calling me a noob. I've been here a whole lot longer than you, even if my post count doesnt show it.




Modified by SamN at 8:35 PM 10/5/2007

 

http://www.thepartsbin.com/cat...asket
Is the 2nd one down the one your talking about. The first one is the one that I have.

 

yes it is definitly not the first one, i'am looking at my spare obd1 GSR gasket, its the wrong gasket. i just went to a acura dealer and looked at the 96 (obd2) gsr gasket and it's a different gasket, but it also has a slit in the opening unlike the first one which is round, this is why its not idling cause your gasket is covering vaccum supply to the iac valve or the FITV. # 4 is the gasket for a 96 gsr,what year is your motor?
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problem solved hopefuly.

i guess this doesnt explain why your motor wont rev up though.

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That website is down, do you have another site with that part or a part #?
I'll probably have to order it from one of the auto stores because I'm sure they dont stock it, and I'd like to do it asap. Thanks for all the help man.

 

i edited my last post, look up.i just looked up a 96 GSR.
you might try searching an acura web site for your particular year of motor

 

k thanks
On the 95 gsr they say to use the gasket you recommended, but would it differ on mine since it's a newer year. I've heard the 94-95 TB's are different from 95+. Would the blox intake mani play a role in this also?





Modified by SamN at 9:55 AM 10/6/2007

 

why the hell are you running obd2a? REF?

Should run obd1 a more simpler system and easy to trouble shoot? Is your can an si? Car dies seems like a wiring problem..Did the car run fine with the stock motor?