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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Anyone know how good of a material it is when it dissapates heat at an R value of 1.6?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...les/thrcn.html

http://www.processassociates.com/pro...ert/cf_tcn.htm
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:53 AM
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Thanks but thats not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm not looking for thermal conductivity, I'm looking for thermal dissapation.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:57 AM
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same thing, just take the difference between the material and the medium to which your transfering heat.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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I dont get it. I was never too great at physics. I would like to know how well a material with an R value of 1.6 refract heat as compared to other materails. I am looking for a good thermal wrap that can withstand header heat.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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thermo-tec heat wrap or dei heat wrap
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:04 AM
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Something like this....
Insulation type R-value per inch of thickness
Fiber glass blanket or batt 2.9 to 3.8 (use 3.2)
High performance fiber glass blanket or batt 3.7 to 4.3 (use 3.8)
Loose-fill fiber glass 2.3 to 2.7 (use 2.5)
Loose-fill rock wool 2.7 to 3.0 (use 2.8)
Loose-fill cellulose 3.4 to 3.7 (use 3.5)
Perlite or vermiculite 2.4 to 3.7 (use 2.7)
Expanded polystyrene board 3.6 to 4 (use 3.8)
Extruded polystyrene board 4.5 to 5 (use 4.8)
Polyisocyanurate board, unfaced 5.6 to 6.3 (use 5.8)
Polyisocyanurate board, foil-faced 7
Spray polyurethane foam 5.6 to 6.3 (use 5.9)
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:05 AM
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Design Engineering wrap is like $30 for the same amount I bought for $3.


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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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if you want to go super crazy, find a way of making a non-brittle ceramic blanket
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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I was thinking more along the lines of painting my header with either ceramic paint or heat safe paint black, and then using some sort of wrap that will withstand the heat.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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http://www.jm.com/insulation/product..._Microlite.pdf
Edit: However, this stuff can only withstand 350 F which is not nearly enough.


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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:18 AM
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why not just get the damned thing coated and then wrap it?

http://www.hpcoatings.com
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:28 AM
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http://www.zippertubing.com/hightemp.htm
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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Because I cant have down-time.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:34 AM
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$60 for a 100 ft roll.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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It's just a conversion factor, to whatever you want, insulating R value can be in inch/cm/etc... but you have to say which...
Ahh, thermal wrap, you are looking for insulation, i'm using dei header wrap... with dei silicone coating, both from summitracing for cheap...

As for the ideal header wrap... aerogel

http://science.nasa.gov/aerogel/
http://eande.lbl.gov/ECS/Aerogels/satcond.htm

Unbelievable stuff and all that is needed to insulate entire exhaust weighs less than a penny! Plus it's not as far off an idea as you think, it is already being made as insulation for ski jackets and other winter clothes.

Otherwise, more expensive than fiberglass headerwrap... http://www.3m.com/market/industrial/...barriers.jhtml

Your choice.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Thanks.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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$60 for a 100 ft roll.
thats what Im using on my shizzle
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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Call me cheap, but I still think thats kinda on the rich side for me.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 04:29 AM
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$60 for a 100 ft roll.
Where do you get that stuff for that price?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 04:47 AM
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summit racing equipment
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 05:14 AM
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Default Re: How is everyones thermal dynamics? (smokin rubber)

the problem with the heat wrap if the pipe has not been coated is it traps moisture between the surfaces and your piping will rust at an accelerated rate
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 05:51 AM
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Where do you get that stuff for that price?
Designengineering.com also.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 06:25 AM
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Cool, I live right by Summit Racing. I may get some this weekend.

Misa , what do you coat that stuff with to prevent the moisture problem?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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i didnt coat, but on my next set of whatever the hell i decide to do if i decide im not sick of all this crap

would be have it sent off to be coated http://www.hpcoatings.com
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