ok im gettin ready to put an engine into my car but im broke so im throwing in a single cam vtec engine to replace the blown y7... i found a d17 single cam vtec engine from an 04 ex but comes with ek mounts would the swap be hard??? because ive never seen these engines swapped into older models by the way im gettin the whole swap for 300 besides the dizzzy what u guys think?


Modified by Midori Green at 12:38 PM 9/24/2007

 

i never see this swap done and i always wondered why

 

I haven't really looked into it either, but wiring may be the biggest concern. Remember that the d17's come with coil packs instead of plug wires. (the reason why you are not getting a dizzy with the swap)

 

i'll just use the wiring from the d17 itself do u think it would be an easy swap??? because im gettin it for dirt cheap

 

damn nobody knows?

 

It can be done, but its too much trouble and not worth it.

-Mounts are different
-Runs on a very different wiring system
-Trannys are Cable
-Motors are sluggish. (Vtec-E)


Noone makes mounts to swap them, you would need the entire wiring system and ECU for it, and convert to cable shifter.
Who knows if it would run, and its not worth the time and effort for a motor that puts down solid 17+ sec 1/4 miles. I know it says 'D17', but theres almost nothing "D" about it, compared to bolt patterns and egnine parts from 92-00 D series motors.

 

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-Mounts are different
-Runs on a very different wiring system
-Trannys are Cable
-Motors are sluggish. (Vtec-E)


Noone makes mounts to swap them, you would need the entire wiring system and ECU for it, and convert to cable shifter.
Who knows if it would run, and its not worth the time and effort for a motor that puts down solid 17+ sec 1/4 miles. I know it says 'D17', but theres almost nothing "D" about it, compared to bolt patterns and egnine parts from 92-00 D series motors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i guess your right even tho the kid said he has the ek mounts and he has swapped it into a ek before he also said i can use my regular harness...and its an ex motor so its not vtec-e thats for the hx... this is regular vtec i believe

 

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yea i guess your right even tho the kid said he has the ek mounts and he has swapped it into a ek before he also said i can use my regular harness...and its an ex motor so its not vtec-e thats for the hx... this is regular vtec i believe</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh jeez no, lol this person is lying.
You cannot use your stock harness, the plugs are different, plus d17s dont have distributors, its all integrated into its wiring harness. The computer is different, and so are allot of things. Its just not worth the trouble, your much better off finding any 92-00 D-series motor to drop in, trust me on that.


This is a previous thread on the subject of D17s and Eg/Eks
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2023147

 

i guess your right im still looking for a motor then

 

Actually the d17 in the 04 ex civic is hydro

 

Idk about that man I have an 04 5 speed hydro trans on mine and I have a 00 hatch both are hydro trans.. if you swap like I am using full harness ecu cluster and fuse box this is possible over the next 2 weeks I will post pics and video if possible for you it don't work if we don't make it and I'm pretty sure them driver side mounts are close

 

Hydro, but with cable shift linkage like a K series instead of shift rods