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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Why wouldn't it be better to just hit WOT?
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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right before i race someone i put on my cruise control and use the acc increase button
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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looooool bet you win often
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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lol. jocker
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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so is this the kind of "tech" you get from h-t?

and you guys are on here because?...............

thanks for the help...
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Why wouldn't you want to go WOT when racing, your doing it to win and gradually getting on the gas while your opponent is mashing the pedal isn't going to help you.

As for the other two, drive the car how you want to drive it. Your question is way too broad and based upon an individuals (you) driving style. Don't like to beat on your car? Then don't WOT all the time. Want to save gas? Then don't WOT all the time.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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So are you trying to lose???
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec8804 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">right before i race someone i put on my cruise control and use the acc increase button </TD></TR></TABLE>

damn, my secret is out!
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by end005 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so is this the kind of "tech" you get from h-t?

and you guys are on here because?...............

thanks for the help...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stupid questions get stupid answers.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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The only thing that I can think of is maybe your car bogs when you punch the gas. Cars should not do this, therefore you should do a tune up
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Actually....its a very good question. There is multiple things that play into this, one is the ECU and open loop vs closed loop mode (after 80% throttle it kicks into open loop) and then you have the intake air velocity. In general the ECU runs richer and more timing in open loop mode which tends to be better for power, thus WOT is better. However, because of the "ramming" effect that you get from higher intake velocities, at lower RPMs you generally get a little more power by closing the TB off a bit and increasing the air velocity (look into throttle body sizing if you want to get into that more). Thus, I think its probably a valid question, but generally if you're "racing" then you're slipping the clutch from 4k+ and staying above 5k the entire time, thus you should just keep it at WOT. However cruising around town say in 4th gear at 2500rpms, you will actually get more power from partial throttle.....
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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I roll into WOT. Mind you, it is pretty quick. Flooring a car at low RPM can actually reduce power. The two-stage intake manifold on the GSR compensates for this somewhat. The newer cars with electronic throttles will not allow WOT at low RPM because it reduces both power and fuel economy.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually....its a very good question. There is multiple things that play into this, one is the ECU and open loop vs closed loop mode (after 80% throttle it kicks into open loop) and then you have the intake air velocity. In general the ECU runs richer and more timing in open loop mode which tends to be better for power, thus WOT is better. However, because of the "ramming" effect that you get from higher intake velocities, at lower RPMs you generally get a little more power by closing the TB off a bit and increasing the air velocity (look into throttle body sizing if you want to get into that more). Thus, I think its probably a valid question, but generally if you're "racing" then you're slipping the clutch from 4k+ and staying above 5k the entire time, thus you should just keep it at WOT. However cruising around town say in 4th gear at 2500rpms, you will actually get more power from partial throttle.....</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks for the help.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dartanian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Stupid questions get stupid answers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe you just didn't know how to intelligently articulate such an answer...thus you bash with such an unintelligible answer.

anyway..thanks bud.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I roll into WOT. Mind you, it is pretty quick. Flooring a car at low RPM can actually reduce power. The two-stage intake manifold on the GSR compensates for this somewhat. The newer cars with electronic throttles will not allow WOT at low RPM because it reduces both power and fuel economy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you for the input. I appreciate it!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Thats like starting off an Olympic race with a mild jog.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompanyFlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats like starting off an Olympic race with a mild jog.</TD></TR></TABLE>

--- I didn't know running on foot was comparable to racing a car. lol
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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it is when u wanna gradually increase ur speed
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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also depends on what type of racing you're doing. if you're drag racing, you'll never be below 6-7k rpm anyway so WOT is best. but if you're on a road course or auto-x, rolling into the throttle after a turn is going to be much better.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you're drag racing, you'll never be <U>below</U> 6-7k rpm anyway </TD></TR></TABLE>

Care to elaborate on this more?
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompanyFlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Care to elaborate on this more? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i should've said for most setups
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Still don't understand.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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stop bumping this IMO 'stupid' thread.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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well, if your on the drag strip with street tires, you might want to be at part throttle when launching in order to to get to much wheel spin but you still want to take off fast.
3000 rpm and slip the clutch. Hold at that rpm until you get traction and then WOT

Good question by the way!!!
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