well i'm in the market for some new suspension, and all of these are in the same ballpark so which would you guys say is best?

i'm leaning towards the omni+koni combo since it's pretty cheap on yoparts right now, but i've always heard good things about gc and tein.

on my last car i had h&r sports on stock shocks

need your opinion guys

 

You know when you drop your ride on slip on coilovers what your actually doing is shorting your strut and lowering at the same time. and that my friend will give you a shitty ride.

IMHO go with height and pre-load adjustable coilovers.

I know PIC has some for around $850

AMR has custom applications (custom spring rates) for $825 shipped.

I've seen others that are height and preload independantly adjustable, THOSE are what you need to lower your car without sacrificing ride quality.


Modified by 95vxtealhatch at 6:20 PM 9/20/2007

 

well i'm actually throwing the slip on coils on koni yellow or kyb agx actually. doesnt that make up for it? if not how do the tein basics pin up against the pic or asr? because those are preloaded. and the omni, gc, and tein basic all come with pretty much the same spring rate, that's why i ask

 

I purchased Omni Coilovers Street Version about a year and half ago and they did the job just fine and never had bad things to say about them at all.


Now I'm ordering the new omni coilover kit and will dealing with Steve/Omniman and I know I'll be ordering more things from them

 

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Do some research on coilovers, or find out the hard way when you get koni/gc setup. I'll save you time, the lower you go with sleeve type coilovers the worst your ride gets. You ride will sufferer due to the fact your shortening your struts as well as lowering your car via coilover sleeves. Do you know why GC makes extended top hats? True coilovers have a ride height adjustment AND a perch(called spring pre-poad) that the spring sits on. Tien basic doesn't have both adjustments, its basically a sleeve type coilover with matched springs and shocks; shocks aren't even adjustable. Is any of this coming together to form a picture yet?

You can do fake coilovers with koni/gc or you can spend the same amount and get a custom setup through AMR, gauranteed satisfaction even on the custom spring rates, also they have a lifetime warrenty on everything.PIC also has true type coilovers i think, but only a 1 year waranty


Modified by 95vxtealhatch at 6:21 PM 9/20/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95vxtealhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do some research on coilovers, or find out the hard way when you get koni/gc setup. I'll save you time, the lower you go with sleeve type coilovers the worst your ride gets. You ride will sufferer due to the fact your shortening your struts as well as lowering your car via coilover sleeves. Do you know why GC makes extended top hats? True coilovers have a ride height adjustment AND a perch(called spring pre-poad) that the spring sits on. Tien basic doesn't have both adjustments, its basically a sleeve type coilover with matched springs and shocks; shocks aren't even adjustable. Is any of this coming together to form a picture yet?

You can do fake coilovers with koni/gc or you can spend the same amount and get a custom setup through AMR, gauranteed satisfaction even on the custom spring rates, also they have a lifetime warrenty on everything.PIC also has true type coilovers i think, but only a 1 year waranty</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're going to take the time to explain things, you should also use correct terminology. You know the general concept, but I don't like to see others get confused by the improper use of terms.

There is no such thing as a "true" or "fake" coilover. A coilover is simply a coil spring fitted over a damper and installed as a single unit, as opposed to the spring and damper being fitted to the chassis as separate pieces. That's it. A '92-95 Civic comes stock with "coilovers."

What most people refer to as "coilovers" here actually are adjustable spring perches, which are used to change ride height, corner weights, damper stroke, and/or spring preload. The spring perch threads up and down either on a sleeve that fits over a regular damper body (commonly referred to as a "coilover sleeve"), or on threads that are machined directly onto the damper body itself (commonly but wrongly referred to as a "full coilover").

Some adjustable coilover systems with threaded-body dampers have separate ride height and spring preload/damper stroke adjustments. The spring perch adjusts the preload of the spring and the stroke of the damper, while ride height is adjusted separately via an adapter that threads onto the bottom of the damper body and serves as the lower mount of the coilover.

 

so pic, amr, any other brands?

edit: i'm seeing a lot of ksport, function, d2?

any inputs?

 

Well first of all you need to tell us what your plans are for your car with upgraded suspension.

I would suggest Koni + GC as a much, MUCH better option than KYB + GC or Koni + Omni.

Why? Because GC makes sleeves specifically designed to fit directly onto the Koni shocks and sit on the Koni snap ring, without the use of the spring perches for OEM-style springs. The fit and finish is extremely clean.

Also, Koni + GC has been race-proven by thousands of weekend racers all over the world. Everything is superb quality, and of course there's the Koni lifetime warranty.

I've had Koni shocks on my car for over nearly 6 yerars now, over 150,000 miles, and I had GC's on them for over a year, and they're still going strong. As far as parts longevity, the Koni shocks were one of the best investments I made for my car.

 

well i'm just trying to lower my car, but i want to do it right because my last car was such a shitty ride. this car will not be autox'd nor will it be dragged.

just some mountain runs sometimes

 

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edit: i'm seeing a lot of ksport, function, d2?

any inputs?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Out of any of those, I'd lean toward the PIC products.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vdub08 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i'm just trying to lower my car, but i want to do it right because my last car was such a shitty ride. this car will not be autox'd nor will it be dragged.

just some mountain runs sometimes</TD></TR></TABLE>

Go 4 Omnis then

They ride OK, handle nicely, cheapest legit setup you can get. Plus they let you adjust the whole damper rather than where the spring sits.

 

koni and ground control is a far more advanced and tested, proven setup.. but i guess if you want looks or something you'd go for some cheap coilover like omni, d2, megan,

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95vxtealhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know when you drop your ride on slip on coilovers what your actually doing is shorting your strut and lowering at the same time. and that my friend will give you a shitty ride.

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no it doesn't.

and you don't know what you are saying.

this myth has been adressed before

 

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no it doesn't.

and you don't know what you are saying.

this myth has been adressed before</TD></TR></TABLE>


I agree I have a koni/GC setup and with the konis on full soft it rides like a cadilac and I have no tire to fender gap with 205/40/16

 

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I agree I have a koni/GC setup and with the konis on full soft it rides like a cadilac and I have no tire to fender gap with 205/40/16

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Yea honestly you can't beat Koni for the money, I was gonna get NEX coils for my Maxima but I'm gonna hold off for the GC/Koni combo next spring...

I've ridden in cars w/Omnis though and it was alright. A little bouncy but nothing crazy

 

u should buy my tein super streets they were very smooth not bumpy or bouncy at all
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