Has anybody ever had their alarm installed by ektuner39? This is mainly for you east bay guys. I was wondering if anybody recommends him and has actually had an alarm installed by him. Good? Bad?

His prices are really good, I just want to know if I'm going to get a rat's nest install or my alarm won't work or worse. He also does clutch bypasses for remote alarm systems but I'm worried if I do this and it fails for some reason my car will either stall out or will go into gear and crash somewhere... Not good!

Please let me know of your experiences

 

In my opinion anyone who bypasses clutches arent thinking. the proper way is with a compustar remote starter made for MT's. With that being said go into the audio video forum and talk with suspended hatch and those guys- they truly know there stuff, and i dont think any installer is going to care more about your car then them

 

I have actually talked with Desmon (wrx-killer-Sti-eater) about this guy, and he told me he didn't know much about him. I would love to have him and Suspended-hatch do my install but I'm in NorCal for college and they are down south. I would wait until the next time I drive home (The rest of my family lives in Orange County) but my car was already almost broken into a few weeks ago and a car outside my parking garage got stolen. So I'm feeling the time crunch and I need an install.

I probably should ask either one of them about the clutch bypass because that truly does worry about me.

 

I don't care how good he is, if he's doing remote start installs on manual cars using units not specifically designed for manuals, then you're just asking for trouble...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't care how good he is, if he's doing remote start installs on manual cars using units not specifically designed for manuals, then you're just asking for trouble...</TD></TR></TABLE> Ditto that.
If you want remote start, get one made for a standard.

Also the clutch interlock switch is not bypassed it is "interfaced" all you do is connect the remote starts status output, [ground out when running] lead to the output of the clutch interlock switch, all remote starts have them, but doing so with a remote start made for auto transmission only is asking for a world of trouble.

Any remote start installed in a standard must have fail-safe "safeties" to prevent you from remote starting the car if it is in gear.

 

From what I understand, he doesn't just install the remote start if it is made for autos. He makes a relay that bypasses the clutch for the start if it isn't in gear, and if I'm not mistaken he also makes it so if the car IS in gear the clutch needs to be pushed in to start the car. I'll ask him today about that, and for the mean time if Sti-eater or suspendedHatch could chime in on this it would be most appreciated.

 

Well none of us can make any real comment about him because he doesn't contribute in this forum (to my knowledge, I can't remember seeing him). None of us have seen his work unless he wants to post up a tutorial or showcase.

We all know how to "bypass" the clutch start kill switch.

The ONLY way to detect if the car is in gear is to physically mount a switch or sensor to the shifter.

Yesterday I did a stealth alarm for a guy. My driveway is on a slope, so I often just roll customers cars into my garage after they drop it off. This car began rolling as soon as I put the clutch in. The parking brake did nothing to hold the car in place. When I took apart the dash, I realized that the car had a DEI remote start alarm installed and then partially removed. How scary. In other words, this person (or a previous owner) was parking their car out of gear (so it could be remote started) and relying only on the parking brake to hold it in place, and the parking brake wasn't working. If that remote start had been left installed (ironically it was stolen), it would be just a matter of time until the owner parked it on a slight slope out of gear and it would have rolled away.

My best recommendation to you is to get a non-remote start alarm installed by a shop that has a lifetime warranty on both the product and the install.

 

Thanks sH, the only reason why I'm kind of happy about the alarm system (which is the Python 871xp) is because I got an unpassable deal on it, and it comes with a remote start. I'll talk to the guy about mounting a sensor to the shifter, but if he can't do it, I'll probably just not hook the remote start up.

I really would not like my car rolling away at all. That would definitely be kind of a problem on the streets around here. Good thing I always remember the DMV test crap where you have to turn your wheels a certain way whenever you park on a slope. Even then, I do not want to have to rely solely on the E-brake and my wheels for safety. I always leave it in gear. Is there any chance the remote start would go on accident?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilentEdge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there any chance the remote start would go on accident?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you dont have a sensor to tell when the car is in gear then yes.

 

No I mean like it would pick up a random radio frequency that turns it on or something, and it starts on its own without me pushing anything.

 

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It can't if its not hooked up.

 

Man I am confusing today.

Let's say I do in fact install the remote start. Would it ever start on its own without me pushing the button?

Or maybe I just don't get what you're saying. Enlighten me!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilentEdge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's say I do in fact install the remote start. Would it ever start on its own without me pushing the button?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, But you WILL push the button when the car is in gear.

 

Hooray! Wait, no that's a bad thing. Well I know I'm great at messing things up so I will either make sure he can install some sort of sensor/switch on the shifter so it knows whether or not it's in gear, or I will not install the remote start. Thanks for the help you guys, I really appreciate it.

 

I would also have that wired in series with a manual toggle switch with an LED on it, and then the parking brake.

My roommate claims his chevy (791XV w/a bypass module installed by me) remote started spontaneously when the remote was sitting on the table out in the open. It beeped showing him that his truck was running, so he ran out front and sure enough it had remote started. Never did it again though.

 

Does this guy even have a business licence, insurance or is just some one off the street. Does he have experiance? Or just started. How did you find him? Before you take your car to someone you better get this straight. Because this guy has no vouches here.

 

If you insist on installing the remote start get one of these... http://peripheralelectronics.c...t*ard
Again not relays are needed to interface the clutch interlock switch. 94

 

Good find

Basically it requires you to leave the alarm in turbo timer mode. If you can get out of the car while it's running, then it must be safe to remote start. Just like the Compustar.

Now just set your calendar to remind you to periodically check/adjust your parking brake.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you insist on installing the remote start get one of these... http://peripheralelectronics.c...t*ard
Again not relays are needed to interface the clutch interlock switch. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Definitely a good product...

So now, in this forum, we'll have to stop saying that we're not going to help people install DEI starters on 5 speeds, and start saying that we'll help only if they show proof that they've purchased one of these magic boxes.

 

I have used them on a number of occasions over the last few years, and I have mentioned it on here before, but stopped after we decided not to help anyone wanting to install an auto only remote start in a standard, but it is apparent they will anyway and someone will tell them how, at least with the NSS it will be as fail-safe as any remote start for a standard. 94

 

Well thank you very much. Do you have any idea how much the NSS runs? I tried finding on the site but couldn't.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilentEdge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well thank you very much. Do you have any idea how much the NSS runs? I tried finding on the site but couldn't.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Google pwnz you.

http://www.uscaraudio.com/cgi-...o=NSS

 

Google! So, we meet again...

 

The dude is really helpful about the install. He said he will do a mercury or magnetic sensor on the shifter, a toggle switch, and a sensor on the e-brake in that order to protect my car from a remote mis-start.

Hell, why don't I be the guinea pig for him and I'll report back here when all is said and done with my impressions and the quality of the job? Maybe ektuner39 can be the up-and-coming Norcal protege of suspendedHatch or wrx-killer-Sti-eater?

 

Ask him how he does a merc switch on the shifter? im interested- Its doable on a E brake, but having the e brake up, still doesnt work- the car will drag itself. Ive seen it in person lol