I am curious, does anyone know someone doing a k20 swap in a prelude? If so, could someone post pics?

 

what happened to it? oh spit, its one of those "Hype Arr's"

 

tx for posting pics, i was looking for this prelude, yeah sad news its dead do

 

so did it ever run? if so how was it

 

use the search button. there is a a new K20 thread every other day.....

 

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a-phucking-men

 

Waste of time and money if you ask me. You can build a H22 for a lot cheaper than swapping a k20 in.

 

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i kinda agree that the h22 has better bang for the buck, but i think the K series is a better platform. i cant find the thread right now but on stock internals the k20/24 hybrids recorded DD with 3-400whp, and on a stupid 30psi tune for stock internals it was like 646whp that exploded on a dyno. i mean if ur gonna build it strictly for power on a budget, then H22 is the way to go. however if your goal is to have the most original prelude out there, k series is a great alternative motor. up until now, no other honda motor gave gains compared to an h22 right? the aftermarket support for K series is decent too especially for tuning since u got Kpro. I'm not gonna start this argument, but the K series isn't a joke like the B/D series for a prelude.

and ill probably get flamed for this... but..
iVTEC &gt; VTEC ! (jumps into flame suit)

 

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iVTEC &gt; VTEC !</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not flaming, but why do you say that?

 

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That's true, but I was just curious to see if someone did it. If I had a prelude, I would definitely stick with the H22.

BTW, thanks for sharing hamadiscool.

 

from what i read, IVTEC is better throughout the whole powerband, instead of just at the classic roaring 5200RPM we all love. I'm regurgitating what I read about it here, and i mean stock VTEC, not tuned. The next VTEC is supposed to be A-VTEC which reports even more gains and is expected to come out in the next couple of years.

once again, stock for stock I say iVTEC is better. tuned.. well i dont know

 

Cool, just FYI here's more on IVTEC: http://asia.vtec.net/article/k20a/ Really the only major difference is an adjustable cam gear....

It's a more advanced system for sure, but it the old H22 VTEC still has tons of potential.

 

thanks, good read.

i also wiki'd it just for the refresh to my mind.
the 2 different IVTEC serve 2 different goals
1 is fuel economy, the other is performance.

the performance IVTEC is the one that is VTEC+VTC. The VTC enables the advantage of continually variable intake cam timing, whereas the classic dohc VTEC didnt.

I'm not saying that the classic VTEC isn't great, but the iVTEC does have an advantage stock for stock. Furthermore, I do believe that any new innovation from Honda is for the better if that counts for anything at all. I'm sure that the difference is miniscule, but its there.

i mean how can VTEC + VTC &lt; VTEC alone stock for stock right?
tuned- well thats a completely different story

im waiting for A-VTEC, control of timing fully almost

 

i reckon as soon as the swap price becomes affordable, the naysayers will be forgetting this thread existed and posting their builds on here. Give it a couple of years and it will be the swap to do, If your in the trade and can hustle the parts then this swap should be reasonably affordable, its not like your sticking a v8 in there or something.

 

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What the hell is a "reckon"

Not only does a conversion kit have to be made which requires a hell of a lot of stuff, but the price of the K-swap has to drop significantly.

 

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What the hell is a "reckon"

Not only does a conversion kit have to be made which requires a hell of a lot of stuff, but the price of the K-swap has to drop significantly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Market will dictate the prices as with everything else. A "reckon" is my opinion

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Yes but as those K-series prices drop in the next few years so will H22 swaps. So basically H22 swaps will always be cheaper. Know what i'm saying?

 

if you possess the skill to do the fabwork / welding i think its quite affordable. skills with electricals too i guess. what im getting at here is that for people that have time on their hands and most the neccessary tools/equipemtn, its do-able. The average joe however.. not practical

 

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Of course amigo, but its like Mugen and OEM, there will always be a market for their stuff, both at their respective price brackets. At the moment a K swap is something unique as a popular choice, but it won't always be that way. Plus its likely that H22 will get pushed to the grave by interfering Econutters in government departments who will raise the emissions bar!

Bang for buck, the H22 nails it, but it must be inevitable that the K swap will become more popular, and with that, the prices will fall to an acceptable level.

If i was to do one, heres my situation: my mate runs a Honda wrecking business, I have connections with a driveshaft shop, my best mate is an auto electrician and a good friend owns a engineering firm with CNC machines. Add all them up and theres the basic components for a K swap. Connections and favours make the price a hell of a lot more affordable than just turning up to a shop and saying "K Swap my car"

Saying that, i'd rather stick a J32/J35 hybrid Twin Turbo'ed **** in the engine bay!

 

for the record, the owner said he wouldnt ever do it again.

 

yeah, well the guinea pig always feels that way =P

i really would of liked to see him turbo'd, tuned, and timeslipped

 

turbo defeats the purpose of doing that swap....imo.

a boosted h22 can do the same thing for the amount of money. the only reason i see this swap is for the k24 torque/power/potential and the 6 speed tranny.

the k20 is a 6 speed h22....in a 5th gen.

 

I think that if you know what your doing and use custom engineered parts the H22 will perform just as well as a K20.

The only reason I would ever want a k in a prelude is because of the 6speed.

 

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Anymore of that yellow ITR?