I have been reading for the last 6 hours and searching didnt turn up much. My eyes are hurting from all the reading which didnt turn up much but "tuning is key".

I am just a little bit curious as to how long properly tuned STOCK boosted h22's are running. i am been reading and just havent come across real numbers. All the boosted h22 guys with STOCK motors please chime in. I dont really care for the built h22's just the stock ones. Please no flaming or useless jabber.

 

in the 6 hours that u searched and read the "tuning is key" u couldn't put together that the longevity of boosted stock motors are inconsistent ?

few major factors:
-tuning
-turbo size
-PSI
-motor (believe the H22's ringlands need special attention)

 

you have the answer in your question.

it's in the quotes

there is no direct answer to this question, never will be WAY to many variables come into play to even began to calculate an average

 

do more research, but search more on building a motor. and apply budget accordingly

 

I have boosted 3. One h23 had 190,000 miles before i put the turbo on it, tuned to 242 whp 215 ft/lbs, I beat the **** out of it for 6 months, Ran a 13.8 @ 101 on my heavy chrome 18s, parted out the turbo kit. the motor is still running in another car, and i have put another 6,000 miles on it since the turbo was taken off and it still compression tests good.

My second one h22 with budget turbo kiti was sitting on 5 psi (becuase of manifold leak) i put out 238 whp with 201 ft/lbs. I didnt beat on this oen really hard becuase the afr was around 12.8 at 6500 plus rpm. It needed more tuning. I ran this one, and daily drove it for 3 or 4 months, until i sold the turbo kit to buy a new car. The motor was pulled and is getting fully built right now, ring lands were fine.

The thrid one i can comment on I helped my friend build it in June of 06, he put down 248 whp with 212 ft lbs on 97 jdm h22 with full turbonetics kit, 550 injectors and a walbro, the turbonetics bov would never hold the boost though, the bov was a pile of ****. He drove around on that for almost a year before the bov siezed, he put a greddy rs on it, and we dynoed it last week at 11psi and it made 268 whp and 227 ft/lbs. about 10,000 miles totoal on this motor, and no problems yet.


all of these cars were tuned on neptune. With the proper tuning and supporting mods. most people high 200's hp to low 300'shp with good luck.

 

ive seen 509 on stock h23/vtec, t67, 1000ccs, supporting mods...lasted as long as it was in the car, then went with a G series setup

 

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I am just a little bit curious as to how long properly tuned STOCK boosted h22's are running. i am been reading and just havent come across real numbers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

3 years, 4 months, 15 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes and 53 seconds exactly. Any more longer, and the motor will blow up.

 

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C'mon! Sounds like a Dyno Queen IF its even true....
Sounds like a friend of a friend of a friend of your neighbors cousins fathers high school friends son was feeding you some BS.

It seems as if anything beyond 250whp or so and youre on borrowed time....
My friends ring lands let loose at about 280whp.

 

Ive had mine jdm h22 bosted for about 15000, km's 6-7psi, borg warrner t3/t4, walbro pump, 1000cc injectors, crome= 302 whp no problems yet....get it tuned by sum1 who has tunning experience h22s

before untunued h22 p13 ecu.....vs after full tuned @6-7 psi

 

nice setup jdm rice, but those injectors are way to big. hahah, you could do the same with some 550's, but your probably just planning for the future. You could probably drop vtec a bit to help smoothen out the torque, but damn thats a nice torque curv after 5,000 rpm.

 

7 months here on a stock h23. no problems yet (knock on wood) had mine tuned by a very compitant tuner who has done many h series setups. and like the others said it varys way too much to put any kind of time frame on it. i know guys that only lasted 6 min on the dyno and others that have been going for 2 years on stuck motors.

 

nice setup jdmrice, that is what I would want a powerband to look like if I ever considered boost

 

People will tell you that a stock block is unreliable. Its not that its unreliable, just not the most reliable. You can make it as "reliable" as you want.

You should be fine if you check the following

1) Healthy block to start
2) Good Tunning - heat and pressure is whats crackn the ringlands on our 22's. Tunning can help with this. Run too lean under boost and your done.
3) Run a "smart" amount of psi
4) Get a good size turbo. Backpressure is a killer too. My turbo is a small Greddy 18G and I will be getting rid of it soon. Our 22's are pretty good size so we need turbos to match accordingly.
5) Be smart - dont be boostn all the time, everywhere, and run it to red line constantly lol. Just be smart about it...

Extra things you can do:

1) Oil Cooler
2) Alcohol and or Water injection

Anyone feel free to add to the list

 

If you can't flog it all the time, you're just delaying the disaster.

 

Not necessarily. Even people with built blocks should be smart about it really. Talk to Mykizism and he says he doesn't boost all out when its very hot outside. Its simply not the smartest thing to do. Things like that... nothing wrong with being smart about it. You can beat anything up all day everyday, but nothing really last if you do that... boosted or not, eventually the inevitable will happen.

 

Whatever dude, being "smart" about it is one thing, babying it is another.

If you can't floor it around a corner or taking off at least twice a day without problems, then what is the point in pouring money in your car?

Maybe I just like hitting the gas too much.

 

Your just tryn to give me a hard time Matt... I hate you

 

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lol yah there big...but your right i was plannin ahead..why buy them twice right....

 

I am a tuner, i already tuned the car with no knock on 5lbs. 12:1 AFR in boost, 15.5:1 in part throttle. I am not looking for stupid answers. i am looking for life of the h22 as the FRM sleeves suck, and the rings lans on HONDA OEM pistons are weak and cant handle to much peak cylinder pressure timing or much detonation. I just Boosted my 11:1 CR h22 type S motor, with a custom turbo kit that i build myself.

I AM NOT A NOOB TO TURBOCHARGING AS I HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY YEARS.

I am asking the stock h22 turbo guys, on a average how long their motors are lasting just for my own knowlegde and curiousity! SO ALL YOU SMART ASSES PLEASE STAY OFF MY THREAD.

and to everyone else that is inputing real world times, THANKS for the info.

 

I also dont need ideas on building motors. i know that the h22 has a FRM sleeve and all honda stock honda pistons have weak rings lans.

Everyone one here has Hatchs with GSR's, LS's, LS/ VTEC's and d16's. I am the only one with a F and H series motors in my cars.

 

thanks for the smart *** comment

 

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lol yah there big...but your right i was plannin ahead..why buy them twice right....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont worry I have Precision 1000cc injectors myself.

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Relax. There was nothing wrong with his comment or mine. I have been boosting for just over a month now

 

theres nothing wrong with the sleeves. Just keep cylinder pressure (ignition) down and let the turbo make all the power.

onefab ran 548whp on their stock h22 for over 100 1/4 passes and 200+ dyno runs and the block was in perfect shape however a valvespring broke and the top end blew up.

There are plenty of people that have been running mild turbo setups for a very long time. The key to turbo charging is having a healthy engine to begin with. And then tuning the sucker as soon as its ready. My advice...run a decent boost retard, start rich and work your way leaner.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres nothing wrong with the sleeves. Just keep cylinder pressure (ignition) down and let the turbo make all the power.

onefab ran 548whp on their stock h22 for over 100 1/4 passes and 200+ dyno runs and the block was in perfect shape however a valvespring broke and the top end blew up.

There are plenty of people that have been running mild turbo setups for a very long time. The key to turbo charging is having a healthy engine to begin with. And then tuning the sucker as soon as its ready. My advice...run a decent boost retard, start rich and work your way leaner. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Blake you know too much lol. Im jelous

 

ProjectBB6, i apologize i was trying to quote FINESTS comment about 3 years, 6 months blah blah blah.

i cant stand posts like that. i cant count how many times i have had honda-tech members contact me on AIM with their car problems and i wind up giving them my number to help them troubleshoot their problems and get their cars running right over the phone.

I post up, asking for just numbers of how long members here are driving their stock boosted h22's, and i get smart *** comments like

" you answered your question yourself, or 3 year, 25 days, 3 hours, 26 mins, 35 secs."

these forums were created so that everyone in the HONDA community can benefit from it, not people being smart asses about simple questions that we have.

i cant count with my hands and toes how many honda-tech members that i have help over the phone with their car related problems and i have never asked for anything in return.

i created this thread to get data on how long boosted stock h22 are running, not what i need to make the motor more stout or anything else. i just want to know how long everyone else are driving their boosted h22's stock.

i already have a spare block at the machine shop getting dart sleeves put in them, and forged wiseco pistons, crower rods and arp hardware in the mail.