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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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can i put d16z6 crank and rod in a d15b7 block

i was thinking they were indentical?

are they?





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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Default Re: strokin a d (lunch_box_4_life)

So, what exactly is your question? If they are identical, then you wouldn't be stroking anything.

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nighttrain33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, what exactly is your question? If they are identical, then you wouldn't be stroking anything.

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Exactly.

Which d15 crank? which d16 motor?

There's only like 30+ variations.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lunch_box_4_life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i can put d16z6 crank and rod in a d15b7 block

i was thinking they were indentical?

are they? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Save yourself the trouble and use a6 or z6 bottom end. Stroking a 1.5 to 1.6 is pointless IMO
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Like ^^^he said. I call for a mini-me.

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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i just want to know if they are the same block

just because i have three now and i was just wondering


i have three b7 blocks and two vtec head and
four trannies two hydro d five speed and a cable tranny and a auto tranny
i bought them all for
three hundred
did i get a good deal


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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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i suppose that would depend greatly on what condition they are in.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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lol
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Default Re: strokin a d (lunch_box_4_life)

To answer your question, yes they are the same blocks. d16z6, a6, and b7 are all interchangeable.

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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the 6 crank will fit in the 5 block but i belive the .1 is found in bore i may be wrong
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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stroke it with a d17 crank and rods i read somthing aobut doing it that way but still a waste
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THEDirtyDseriesWOOT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stroke it with a d17 crank and rods i read somthing aobut doing it that way but still a waste</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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well let me see i don't have a d17 crank or rod
and i have all this stuff lets do the math
and the d17 needs lots of work to make everthing right
like modifying the crank pulley and **** like that
and to all that keep saying not worth it
it;s worth it to me because i don't need some horsepower monster crankin like five hundred horse
d's are gods gift to man
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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just turbo it dont stroke,, its a waste to stroke..
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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OK, so let's get this straight. You have (3) fully assembled b7 blocks and (2) fully assembled vtec heads. If this is the case, put the vtec head on the non-vtec block and call it a day. Mini-me

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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No the blocks are NOT the same, and you can't stroke the B7 with a Z6 crank. The deck is shorter on a D15 block, so unless you got custom rods and/or pistons (driving the cost of this impotent setup through the roof, and well past the point of diminishing returns) all your junk would stick out the top of the block...and into the head. Plus the D already has the worst rod/stroke ratio of any modern Honda motor, you'd have to reduce that even further with the short rod and long stroke.

Whether you got a good value depends on what the stuff is, if you have any use for it, or if you can resell it. The VTEC heads are nice, they account for 2/3 the value of what you bought if they are in usable shape. You need to check the tranny cases for the "B000" code to see if they are worth anything other than recycling.

As stated, just start your project with a D16 block, or make do with a mild mini-me on one of those B7 blocks. In fact, make 2 and sell one to earn back the money you spent.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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^ what he just said
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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so what about the z6 and y8 can i put a z6 crank and rods in a y8 block
the car i have now has the full z6 motor and i have a y8 block
can i put the rods and the crank out of the z6 in the y8 with the b7 pistons and bump the compression

Talk to me
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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omg... just buy a full D16Z6 swap. best D-series they made. Period.

stick about 15lbs of boost through it on a T-3 Super 60 turbo.

you makin close to 300 whp.

on completely stock longblock/
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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err i agree with all above said except the 300whp part on stock lol.. more like 240 and thats PUSHING IT
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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so can any buddy tell me if this will work
i know the z6 is great i have one but it done it has a good crank and rods
and i have a good low mileage y8 block that i got for free
can i put the z6 crank and rods with pm3 pistons in it and not stick out the block
just looking for answers

i will turbo some day but it's a long way off i have no job and little money
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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slow down for a bit there are many flaws in your plan.

the pm3's will be out the hole in any 1.6 block that is not a higher deck height.

you cannot mill your head or the block or valves will hit those PM3 pistons.........thats not good

you should not turbo charge the high compresion pistons
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Anyone read that honda-tuning article on using civic GX internals on a d16 block?

Guy put down 13:1 comp i think, with 172hp and 139trq, pretty great for a d16 if you plan on going all motor (D-series all motor? I know, its blasphemy! )

For those of you unfamiliar with what the Civic GX was, its the 2001+ civic that is natural gas powered, so yes, they are rare to come by. I read it thoroughly in the june or july (maybe august) edition of honda-tuning. Whole step-by-step guide of how it was done.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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no no no i'm mostly not going to turbo

so i can't use the pm3 pistons damn it

what does anyone have any suggestions for pistons to bump the compression

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