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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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kind of new to the whole Honda thing. i found a 2002 si hatch for $8500. the car is all stock. the guy has a maintenance record a mile high on the car. it has 36k miles on it. seats are mint as is the body.
is this a good deal for this car.
whats the stock hp. (i think it has a k20 in it)
i also want to turbo it. greedy has a kit for it. what will the whp be on what ever the recommended pressure for a stock motor be?
dont mean to sound like a dumb *** but i have been driving a 91 wv 16v turbo jetta forever. i want to try something new.

thanks for you input ahead of time

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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sounds like a good deal to me
you have a k20a3 which equals to 160hp
same as the base model rsx

you can get as much power as you wanted if money isn't an issue
but 230whp-260whp with a turbo is pretty common
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aco512 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like a good deal to me
you have a k20a3 which equals to 160hp
same as the base model rsx

you can get as much power as you wanted if money isn't an issue
but 230whp-260whp with a turbo is pretty common</TD></TR></TABLE>


sounds like that makes of a fun daily driver. oh what does the car weigh stock? ?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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the big turbo is the one i have on the jetta now it's a t3/to4s aka 60-1

i would like to put something like this on the si. any thoughs on this?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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google and wikipedia can answer most of your questions if it has to do with specs

i'm sure another guy with a turbo background can help you more

i'm about the n/a myself
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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That sounds about right for a 2002 model so go jump on it. When you go look at it just look out for tranny grinds and steering rack noise. those are the 2 main pains we ep owners have with our cars. other than that youll love it. the greddy kit you can expect around 230ish to the wheels, and something like the cybernation kit youll be lookin at 260-270ish. hope all that helps!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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dont they are slow
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 03:58 AM
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$8500 for a clean, unsalted/unbent '02 w/36k miles & a documented service history sounds like an excellent buy. But, before you buy an EP3 intending to boost it, I recommend you actually hold an EP3 connecting rod in your hands and compare it with an RSX Type S rod. If you still want to boost an EP3, you'll have a better understanding of its mechanical limitations.

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mechanic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$8500 for a clean, unsalted/unbent '02 w/36k miles & a documented service history sounds like an excellent buy. But, before you buy an EP3 intending to boost it, I recommend you actually hold an EP3 connecting rod in your hands and compare it with an RSX Type S rod. If you still want to boost an EP3, you'll have a better understanding of its mechanical limitations.

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ah they have small rods then. well it would be some time before i could turbo the car. i will try and get some pictures of the car tonight after work.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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I sold my 02 with 62k on it for 10,200.

There should not be that many maintance papers because this car is fairly maintance free. Any accidents or anything? Make sure there is a vin on all doors hatch and hood, bumpers ect.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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60-1 with 6-10psi on a stock k20a3 with 440cc and k-pro will be good enough for a daily driver. just make sure that u get the car tuned and it shouldnt blow. If ur buying a kit then it should be easy to turbo. I've seen a bone stock k20a2 motor with hks gt35r make 430whp at 10psi.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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stock car weighs about 2700-2800 lbs
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Yeah, it's like 2750 lbs.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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That's a FANTASTIC price, so pounce on it

Your first upgrade should be the intake manifold. Get the one from the base RSX or a generic one. You'll get an instant boost of 10 ft/lbs of torque.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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I would say the intake manifold gasket instead. Ive heard the plastic is not as good for modding later down the road
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Recently purchased mine and I LOVE it. Its a very fun car to drive day-to-day. I'd say drive it and see if you like it.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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That is a pretty damn good price I think.... Thats the only reason I'd go for it.. because the RSK type S is way better, but you aint gonna find one at that price, I think the 99-00 SI's are way better too, as is the gsr.. but boost it.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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the si's interior alone is worth buying it. it makes gsr and 99-0 si interiors look like they came out of a '95 metro
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wegotmorrison &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is a pretty damn good price I think.... Thats the only reason I'd go for it.. because the RSK type S is way better, but you aint gonna find one at that price, I think the 99-00 SI's are way better too, as is the gsr.. but boost it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The lowest price with low miles rsx I could find was for 13k with 45k on it. If you plan to swap it just save for the rsx.

The 99-00 si I would say is not better. I liked the looks better but it reminded me of my EX so much that is why I passed on it.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Kevin. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The lowest price with low miles rsx I could find was for 13k with 45k on it. If you plan to swap it just save for the rsx.

The 99-00 si I would say is not better. I liked the looks better but it reminded me of my EX so much that is why I passed on it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah they are better looking and switch pretty hard.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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yeah they are better looking and switch pretty hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>

looks is all personal opinion and what switches hard?

$8500 for a clean, unmolested 36k mile EP3 is a damn good deal
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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looks is all personal opinion and what switches hard?

$8500 for a clean, unmolested 36k mile EP3 is a damn good deal</TD></TR></TABLE>

a 99-2000 SI.. They SWITCH. haha... The EP3's are pretty shitty SI's... I know this is the wrong forum to say that, but Its a pretty well known fact.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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a 99-2000 SI.. They SWITCH. haha... The EP3's are pretty shitty SI's... I know this is the wrong forum to say that, but Its a pretty well known fact.</TD></TR></TABLE>

both an EM1 and EP3 are pretty slow. an EM1 is like an integra with a b16 swap. itd be a good race between both SI's stock for stock. I dont see what makes an EP3 any shittier than an EM1.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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i broght my ep3 a lease that came in a 03 with 46k they were asking 14 i got it 4 12,5 i love it im waiting 2 put a kit in ive been looking at greedy the t3 turbo hopefully xmass i can get money ill bring pictures of that &lt;out&gt;
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Ah I love it, is someone jealous of our k- series? both the em1 and ep3 have the same hp, the ep3 has more torque, a flatter torque curve, and you can get up to speed easilly w/o revving the **** out of it.Mod for mod the K is going to respond better than the B. plus as i said the interior is 10x better than your gsr or the em1, plus their not a dime a dozen. Get it dood
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